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From "Johnson, Eric" <>
Subject RE: Wiki and Web
Date Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:47:18 GMT
I agree that most of the Celtix stuff is probably irrelevant to
CeltiXfire, but figured we needed to start somewhere...
I can certainly put something simple together that has a project
description and associated information. It will probably be easier for
me, initially at least, to put this together using straight HTML. I'm
sure confluence is easy to use, but I've never actually done it.
For site generation I'm not sure Forrest is actually the best way to go
either. I just put the Celtix info together as an experiment. I'm not
sure I like using the Confluence to build the main site either though.
Is there a way to lock down who can edit the content? Does this mean
that the wiki and the Web site are the same?
I suppose what I'm getting at is that I like the idea of having a wiki
that people can edit as a tech/dev zone sort of thing, but not as the
entry to the project. I like the idea of a static site that is reviewed
before being published as the front of the Web site. I think the front
page of the Web site should be a static HTML page that is stored
separately from the wiki. From that page we can link into Confluence,
Maven derived stuff, or Docbook derived stuff. That way the front page
is more tightly locked down and can present the best face for the
It can be just straight HTML and thus avoid the generate->publish step.
As for the docs, I think we need to have them in a format that allows
other projects to easily consume them and work with them as they want.
Keeping them in Docbook allows others to take the docs and build them
into their own doc set if they like.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Diephouse []
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:58 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Wiki and Web
> Hi Eric,
> I'm not sure that all the old Celtix content will be all that
> Probably the tooling stuff will, but I'm looking through the rest of
> celtix website and it doesn't seem like much of it should come
> to Apache.
> How about we get a simple website with the mailing list, source
> repository, and project description up. I think it would be easiest to
> just use confluence for this stage and have the html sync/export
> to the svn repository for our website. If people are really keen on
> using forest, thats fine, but I find Confluence+Export removes the
> generation + publish steps.
> Concurrently, lets figure out what our requirements are for
> documentation. I'm not a huge fan of the write, generate, publish
> approach. I find the the wiki approach much faster as you get an
> look at what your docs look like and there is no delay in publishing.
> understand we may want to have stuff checked over before being
> published though, so maybe we can do a hybrid approach with the manual
> as a forest/xdoc/docbook type of thing and the rest of the site backed
> by a wiki.
> Regards,
> - Dan
> Johnson, Eric wrote:
> > I have a Forrest based site ready that contains most of the content
> > ported from the old Celtix site. It could easily be deployed and
> > to include any Xfire content.
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dan Diephouse []
> >> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:24 PM
> >> To:
> >> Subject: Re: Wiki and Web
> >>
> >> Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 18 Aug 06, at 1:11 PM 18 Aug 06, Johnson, Eric wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Have we decided on a Wiki to use?
> >>>>
> >>> I setup Confluence:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We can use it or something else but that's there for perusal.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I'm deifnitely for using Confluence. It kicks the pants off Moin
> >>
> >>>> What are we going to do about getting a web presence for
> >>>>
> >> the project?
> >>
> >>> We can either create a Maven site, use the autoexport plugin for
> >>> Confluence to turn wiki pages into a static site, or use
> >>>
> >> something else.
> >>
> >> Maybe a good first step would be to hook in the autoexport
> >> plugin for Confluence while we investigate our needs for
> >> documentation? This would allow us to get a site up quickly.
> >>
> >> - Dan
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dan Diephouse
> >> Envoi Solutions
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> --
> Dan Diephouse
> Envoi Solutions

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