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From "Miller, Timothy" <Timothy.Mil...@childrens.harvard.edu>
Subject Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
Date Mon, 16 Jun 2014 15:33:32 GMT
I guess I saw it as a short-term thing -- having default and -fast, and
then if/when we deprecate the older one the -fast will just change to
regular ctakes-dictionary-lookup. But that could maybe be confusing to
people too.
Tim

On 06/16/2014 11:24 AM, Masanz, James J. wrote:
> I'd rather something else than "dictionary-lookup-fast". If we come up with something
even faster than this one, having an older one called "fast" could be confusing.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dligach, Dmitriy [mailto:Dmitriy.Dligach@childrens.harvard.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 9:55 AM
> To: cTAKES Developer list
> Subject: Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
>
> +1
>
> Dima
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:42, Miller, Timothy <Timothy.Miller@childrens.harvard.edu>
wrote:
>
>> Sorry to weigh in so late on this -- just returned from vacation. If we
>> want to have a one release delay before making dictionary2 default for
>> testing/documentation/configuration purposes, and there isn't an obvious
>> function-related name, and the main difference is speed, maybe we could
>> call it dictionary-lookup-fast? Besides being accurate and more
>> descriptive than "2", it might lure people into trying it and give us
>> some feedback.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 06/16/2014 10:34 AM, Chen, Pei wrote:
>>> I'm making some significant updates to trunk that may cause some instability
for this release.
>>> It should be mostly transparent, but let me know if you encounter any issues
with trunk.
>>>
>>> Also, regarding the dictionary-lookup2.  If there are no strong objections, we
can leave default to as-is (old behavior).  Folks who wish to give the new one a try are welcome
to do so and we can change the default behavior in a future release.
>>>
>>> [ducks for cover now]
>>> --Pei
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ksarma@gmail.com [mailto:ksarma@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Karthik
>>>> Sarma
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:58 AM
>>>> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
>>>>
>>>> Agreed
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014, vijay garla <vngarla@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> regardless of the name, I think it would be incredibly helpful to have
>>>>> thorough documentation on the dictionary lookup, how to configure it,
>>>>> and how to create new dictionaries.  I would venture to say that this
>>>>> is the most important component in cTAKES, and probably the one that
>>>>> has generated the most questions on the newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Finan, Sean <
>>>>> Sean.Finan@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> . The newer NER should have in its name the Behavior...
>>>>>> I agree, but the *2 module is a complete replacement for the current
>>>>>> lookup.  It does not (really) have any different behavior, just a
>>>>> different
>>>>>> implementation and performance.  We plan to swap out the old with
>>>>>> the new in the next release and get rid of the *2 suffix.  So, any
>>>>>> name provided now is just temporary - unless people don't like the
>>>>>> name "dictionary-lookup" at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my original sandbox it was named "RareWordLookup", a nod to its
>>>>>> implementation.  However, this doesn't help any users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: andy mcmurry [mailto:mcmurry.andy@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 3:09 AM
>>>>>> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "2" doesn't mean much. The newer NER should have in its name the
>>>>>> Behavior...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps something like MetaMap Usage
>>>>>> <http://metamap.nlm.nih.gov/Docs/MM09_Usage.shtml> "--
>>>> allow_overmatches"
>>>>>> or  "--allow_concept_gaps" or .....other?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since yTex already provides a pluggable *DictionaryLookup, *that
>>>>>> seems like the best place to define the differing Behavior /  Usage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/User's+Guide
>>>>>> https://code.google.com/p/ytex/wiki/DictionaryLookup_V05
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AndyMC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM, britt fitch <britt.fitch@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't have an issue with the *-2 name. I also don't have any
>>>>>>> objections to renaming it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It might be nice to keep the old dictionary code around for a
>>>>>>> release-worth of time but after that I would vote purging it.
>>>>>>> If someone needs it after that it'll be accessible in the archived
>>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chen, Pei
>>>>>>> <Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think James has a fair point here.
>>>>>>>> It may be worthwhile biting the bullet here and push forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since this essentially will be a full replacement of the
>>>>>>> ctakes-dictionary-lookup module, a good option maybe to just
>>>>>>> replace the entire module now and rename the existing module
to *
>>>> _deprecated.
>>>>>>>> How do folks feel about that?  In a nutshell,
>>>>>>>> ctakes-dictionary-lookup-2
>>>>>>> is a faster algorithm with a simpler code base- and comparable
>>>>>>> results (Sean has a full comparison in the documentation for
those
>>>>>>> who are
>>>>>> curious).
>>>>>>>> --Pei
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: britt fitch [mailto:britt.fitch@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:42 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is some documentation in the dictionary2 module
under
>>>>>>>>> /doc/DictionaryLookupHelp.{txt | docx} that gives some
some
>>>>>>>>> details of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> different lookup implementation options within that module
that
>>>>>>>>> I found helpful.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Masanz, James J.
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Karthik Sarma
>>>> UCLA Medical Scientist Training Program Class of 20??
>>>> Member, UCLA Medical Imaging & Informatics Lab Member, CA Delegation
>>>> to the House of Delegates of the American Medical Association
>>>> ksarma@ksarma.com
>>>> gchat: ksarma@gmail.com
>>>> linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/ksarma
>> -- 
>> Tim Miller
>> Instructor
>> Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard Medical School
>> timothy.miller@childrens.harvard.edu
>> 617-919-1223
>>
>

-- 
Tim Miller
Instructor
Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard Medical School
timothy.miller@childrens.harvard.edu
617-919-1223


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