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From "Miller, Timothy" <Timothy.Mil...@childrens.harvard.edu>
Subject Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
Date Mon, 16 Jun 2014 14:41:33 GMT
Sorry to weigh in so late on this -- just returned from vacation. If we
want to have a one release delay before making dictionary2 default for
testing/documentation/configuration purposes, and there isn't an obvious
function-related name, and the main difference is speed, maybe we could
call it dictionary-lookup-fast? Besides being accurate and more
descriptive than "2", it might lure people into trying it and give us
some feedback.

Tim


On 06/16/2014 10:34 AM, Chen, Pei wrote:
> I'm making some significant updates to trunk that may cause some instability for this
release.
> It should be mostly transparent, but let me know if you encounter any issues with trunk.
>
> Also, regarding the dictionary-lookup2.  If there are no strong objections, we can leave
default to as-is (old behavior).  Folks who wish to give the new one a try are welcome to
do so and we can change the default behavior in a future release.
>
> [ducks for cover now]
> --Pei
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ksarma@gmail.com [mailto:ksarma@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Karthik
>> Sarma
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:58 AM
>> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
>>
>> Agreed
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 11, 2014, vijay garla <vngarla@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> regardless of the name, I think it would be incredibly helpful to have
>>> thorough documentation on the dictionary lookup, how to configure it,
>>> and how to create new dictionaries.  I would venture to say that this
>>> is the most important component in cTAKES, and probably the one that
>>> has generated the most questions on the newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Finan, Sean <
>>> Sean.Finan@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> . The newer NER should have in its name the Behavior...
>>>> I agree, but the *2 module is a complete replacement for the current
>>>> lookup.  It does not (really) have any different behavior, just a
>>> different
>>>> implementation and performance.  We plan to swap out the old with
>>>> the new in the next release and get rid of the *2 suffix.  So, any
>>>> name provided now is just temporary - unless people don't like the
>>>> name "dictionary-lookup" at all.
>>>>
>>>> In my original sandbox it was named "RareWordLookup", a nod to its
>>>> implementation.  However, this doesn't help any users.
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: andy mcmurry [mailto:mcmurry.andy@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 3:09 AM
>>>> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
>>>>
>>>> "2" doesn't mean much. The newer NER should have in its name the
>>>> Behavior...
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps something like MetaMap Usage
>>>> <http://metamap.nlm.nih.gov/Docs/MM09_Usage.shtml> "--
>> allow_overmatches"
>>>> or  "--allow_concept_gaps" or .....other?
>>>>
>>>> Since yTex already provides a pluggable *DictionaryLookup, *that
>>>> seems like the best place to define the differing Behavior /  Usage.
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/User's+Guide
>>>> https://code.google.com/p/ytex/wiki/DictionaryLookup_V05
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AndyMC
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:55 AM, britt fitch <britt.fitch@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don’t have an issue with the *-2 name. I also don’t have any
>>>>> objections to renaming it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It might be nice to keep the old dictionary code around for a
>>>>> release-worth of time but after that I would vote purging it.
>>>>> If someone needs it after that it’ll be accessible in the archived
>>>>> releases.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Chen, Pei
>>>>> <Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think James has a fair point here.
>>>>>> It may be worthwhile biting the bullet here and push forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this essentially will be a full replacement of the
>>>>> ctakes-dictionary-lookup module, a good option maybe to just
>>>>> replace the entire module now and rename the existing module to *
>> _deprecated.
>>>>>> How do folks feel about that?  In a nutshell,
>>>>>> ctakes-dictionary-lookup-2
>>>>> is a faster algorithm with a simpler code base- and comparable
>>>>> results (Sean has a full comparison in the documentation for those
>>>>> who are
>>>> curious).
>>>>>> --Pei
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: britt fitch [mailto:britt.fitch@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 5:42 PM
>>>>>>> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for an Apache cTAKES 3.2 Release?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is some documentation in the dictionary2 module under
>>>>>>> /doc/DictionaryLookupHelp.{txt | docx} that gives some some
>>>>>>> details of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> different lookup implementation options within that module that
>>>>>>> I found helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Masanz, James J.
>>>>>>> <
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Karthik Sarma
>> UCLA Medical Scientist Training Program Class of 20??
>> Member, UCLA Medical Imaging & Informatics Lab Member, CA Delegation
>> to the House of Delegates of the American Medical Association
>> ksarma@ksarma.com
>> gchat: ksarma@gmail.com
>> linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/ksarma

-- 
Tim Miller
Instructor
Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard Medical School
timothy.miller@childrens.harvard.edu
617-919-1223


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