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Subject: Re: cTAKES user interface
From: Andrew McMurry <mcmurry.andy@gmail.com>
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Summary:=20
Maven is great. Not going away. VM still highly desirable for first time =
users and even developers.  =20
Maven solves the dependency problem. VM solves an installation problem.=20=


OK So I should put my money where my mouth is. :)
OK I'll make a cTakes VM (Ubuntu 13.10).=20
I basically have to do this anyway.=20

We must admit it is pretty tough to setup cTakes even with all the =
nicely written docs.=20
NLP is complicated. CTAKES is a powerful and configurable engine.=20

Nonetheless, the user request is completely well warranted.=20
" How do I just make it work for the simplest case of copy pasting text =
into a console window ? "=20

In my experiences Maven is great for dependancies of code (jars, wars, =
zips) but=20
really struggles with DEPLOY and INSTALLATION tasks, especially across =
OS systems.=20

Most of the FOSS community has moved past maven for DEPLOY tasks.=20
Puppet, Capistrano, and custom shell scripts are far more frequently =
used than Maven for DEPLOY targets.=20

How does everyone feel about having trying a VM distribution and see how =
it goes?=20
Volunteers thus far: AndyMC (me)=20



On Oct 29, 2013, at 2:52 PM, "Chen, Pei" =
<Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:

> +1
> Pan, the short answer is yes- it can be done in CLI. =20
> The problem is that most of us who are already familiar with the nitty =
gritty are probably doing this with some sort of custom scripts or =
solution.
> Cc' the dev group to get a fresh perspective; not sure what the =
easiest would be-- run the CPE via command line with default =
input/output directories or running a Driver Main Class as part of =
examples.
>=20
> --Pei
>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew McMurry [mailto:mcmurry.andy@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:41 PM
>> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
>> Cc: Pan Teng; andymc@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: cTAKES user interface
>>=20
>> In my opinion, this user request is totally reasonable.
>>=20
>> Download time aside, it should take NO LONGER THAN 15 MINUTES to get
>> started with cTakes.
>> True, cTakes is massively powerful and UMLS is a license headache.
>> Nonetheless!
>>=20
>> This keeps coming up, we should strongly consider an improved VM
>> distribution option so folks can get online with "copy-paste" text =
ready
>> applications on their local machine.
>>=20
>> IT WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER IN A GOOD WAY
>>=20
>> I'm strongly considering making an Ubuntu 13.10 cTakes distribution =
for my
>> own work, would others want this as well?
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
>>=20
>> Yes I know thats a tall order, but its true ! :)
>>=20
>> We dont have to provide the full UMLS instance, just the =
non-commercial
>> dictionaries.
>> Just get new users "hooked on cTakes" with ICD9 diagnoses, =
procedures,
>> medications annotations.
>>=20
>> How do the other committers feel about this?
>>=20
>> PS: I'm back and with more vigor++
>>=20
>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 2:02 PM, "Chen, Pei" =
<Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu>
>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hi Pan,
>>> Fwd'ing to dev@
>>>=20
>>> From: Pan Teng [mailto:tengpan@udel.edu]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:37 PM
>>> To: user-owner@ctakes.apache.org
>>> Subject: Fwd: cTAKES user interface
>>>=20
>>> Hi there,
>>> I'm trying to explore the cTAKES system. Just curious whether there =
is an
>> way that I can use cTAKES system just in the terminal window by =
typing some
>> command line including input and then the output data can be =
generated?
>> Your kindly reply will be appreciated.
>>> Best,
>>> Pan
>>>=20
>>>=20
>=20


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