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From andy mcmurry <mcmurry.a...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: cTAKES user interface
Date Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:33:50 GMT
Ricard:

Groovy idea.
Virtual Machine could benefit from that as well.

*## IMHO: These are parallel tasks that I think are higher priority than
new features.
*It isn't as glamorous as playing Jeopardy, but deploy issues are keeping
users out -- if I were to guess A LOT of the potential user base looks at
ctakes and says "wow that amazing! "

then they look at how complex it will be to do their simple "Hello Ctakes"
example and the 15 minutes of attention -- we are one walk to the soda
machine away from being either embraced or forgotten. It really is that
basic -- if it takes to long to get started, chances are new users -- wont.

The documentation is nicely done and this is absolutely no criticism of
that.
In fact, I apologize for being so out of touch (was thesis writing ).

It just feels like 1992 all over again and your compiling linux just to
find out you didn't tweak your VGA card settings right, and now your stuck.
But you still think linux rocks.

2013 is here and linux now runs out of the box.
The OS itself has changed less in features and more in ease of use.

I know its not Jeopardy but we gotta do it.
*## I'm going to make a VM (Ubuntu 13.10) for myself and let everyone kick
it around. **I strongly encourage the Groovy deploy targets as Richard
suggested. *

This really isn't an either | OR.
We need to be able to have easier turn around on cTakes so we can get back
to Jeopardy.

*## Who agrees, and are there any counter proposals? *


AndyMC






On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Richard Eckart de Castilho
<rec@apache.org>wrote:

> Maven allows to do marvelous things on the CLI, provided you throw in an
> additional component: Groovy.
>
> We did some amazing self-contained Groovy scripts with uimaFIT and DKPro
> Core which you might find interesting
>
>   http://code.google.com/p/dkpro-core-asl/wiki/DKProGroovyCookbook
>
> -- Richard
>
> On 29.10.2013, at 23:09, "Miller, Timothy" <
> Timothy.Miller@childrens.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
> > I think this is also an area where Maven integration was a small step
> backwards (I greatly appreciate the steps forward it allowed). I used to
> run stuff from the command line and in scripts more often but it's slightly
> less straightforward setting up the classpath with maven -- before you
> could put a simple java -cp lib/*.jar <class name> in a script, now I'm not
> sure how to go about it using maven. I'm sure there's a way, but I am
> afraid of falling down the maven rabbit hole.
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Chen, Pei wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >> Pan, the short answer is yes- it can be done in CLI.
> >> The problem is that most of us who are already familiar with the nitty
> gritty are probably doing this with some sort of custom scripts or solution.
> >> Cc' the dev group to get a fresh perspective; not sure what the easiest
> would be-- run the CPE via command line with default input/output
> directories or running a Driver Main Class as part of examples.
> >>
> >> --Pei
>
>

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