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From "Chen, Pei" <Pei.C...@childrens.harvard.edu>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] Where should cTAKES models live?
Date Wed, 03 Apr 2013 13:14:31 GMT
This has been done in trunk in  r1463641.
Feel free to give it a whirl...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ksarma@gmail.com [mailto:ksarma@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Karthik
> Sarma
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:54 AM
> To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Where should cTAKES models live?
> 
> I like b as well
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Karthik Sarma
> UCLA Medical Scientist Training Program Class of 20??
> Member, UCLA Medical Imaging & Informatics Lab Member, CA Delegation
> to the House of Delegates of the American Medical Association
> ksarma@ksarma.com
> gchat: ksarma@gmail.com
> linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/ksarma
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Masanz, James J.
> <Masanz.James@mayo.edu>wrote:
> 
> > I agree with about (b)
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev-return-1411-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@ctakes.apache.org
> [mailto:
> > dev-
> > > return-1411-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@ctakes.apache.org] On Behalf Of
> > > Steven Bethard
> > > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:27 AM
> > > To: dev@ctakes.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Where should cTAKES models live?
> > >
> > > On Mar 29, 2013, at 7:09 AM, "Chen, Pei"
> > > <Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > It looks like the general consensus is for # 2)  Leave them in the
> > > > ASF
> > > repo, but as separate modules/project(s).
> > > > Which means we (the community) will take on the risk (security,
> > > > ip,
> > > license, etc.) and responsibility for the models that we commit.
> > > > I'll take a stab at this today...
> > > > Does anyone think it's worthwhile to (a) lump them all together
> > > > and
> > call
> > > it a ctakes-resources project/model for pragmatic reasons?
> > > Otherwise
> > (b),
> > > we'll have a resource module for each such as ctakes-core-res,
> > ctakes-pos-
> > > tagger-res, etc.?
> > >
> > > I prefer (b). I know that means a lot more projects, but if I only
> > > want to, say, run the ctakes-temporal models, it would be a pity if
> > > I had to pull in the whole UMLS distribution at the same time.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --Pei
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: ksarma@gmail.com [mailto:ksarma@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> > > >> Karthik Sarma
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:35 PM
> > > >> To: cTAKES Developer List
> > > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Where should cTAKES models live?
> > > >>
> > > >> I concur. +1 for option 2 -- I do not really see any advantages
> > > >> that option
> > > >> 3 could have over option 2, as the difference should be largely
> > > >> transparent to users (and even developers)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Karthik Sarma
> > > >> UCLA Medical Scientist Training Program Class of 20??
> > > >> Member, UCLA Medical Imaging & Informatics Lab Member, CA
> > > >> Delegation to the House of Delegates of the American Medical
> > > >> Association ksarma@ksarma.com
> > > >> gchat: ksarma@gmail.com
> > > >> linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/ksarma
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Masanz, James J.
> > > >> <Masanz.James@mayo.edu>wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I also am +1 for option 2.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> #3 is my least favorite, because of the download time for some
> > > >>> of the models, both for cases like Steve mentioned but also for
> > > >>> cases of wanting to check out a fresh copy of the code and not
> > > >>> wanting to wait to check out the models again
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -- James
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From:
> > > >>>> ctakes-dev-return-1378-
> > > >> Masanz.James=mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>> [mailto:ctakes-dev-return-1378-Masanz.James=
> > > >>> mayo.edu@incubator.apache.org]
> > > >>>> On Behalf Of Steven Bethard
> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:06 PM
> > > >>>> To: ctakes-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Where should cTAKES models live?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "Chen, Pei"
> > > >>>> <Pei.Chen@childrens.harvard.edu
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>> So the question is: What should we do with the model files?
> > > >>>>> Some
> > > >>>> options include:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 1)      Leave them in SourceForge/Maven Central.  Maven
can
> > download
> > > >>> and
> > > >>>> include them in the convenience binaries in the
> > > >>>> ctakes-distribution project. Something we did quickly for
3.0,
> > > >>>> but needs to be improved if we go with this approach.  For
> > > >>>> example: [2]
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2)      Leave them in the ASF repo, but separate modules/projects.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 3)      Keep them in the same respective ASF modules under
> > > >>>> /src/main/resources
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I think it's nice to keep these fairly large (~1GB) and
static
> > > >>>>> resource
> > > >>>> files separate from the source code (Either option 1 or 2).
> > > >>>> Also, option
> > > >>>> 1 will require a little more work by the committers/release
> > > >>>> managers but will definitely avoid any licensing issues/concerns.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'd definitely vote for (2). That makes releases much easier
> > > >>>> than if you have to coordinate between the ASF and Sourceforge
> > > >>>> repositories, but also allows people to depend on the code
in a
> > > >>>> module without also pulling in all the models as well. (This
> > > >>>> would make a lot of sense even now, for example, in
> > > >>>> ctakes-temporal which depends on ctakes-relation-extractor
only
> > > >>>> for the relation extraction framework and not for the
> > > >>>> location_of
> > > >>> and
> > > >>>> degree_of models.)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Steve
> > > >>>
> >
> >

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