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From Paul Davis <paul.joseph.da...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
Date Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:22:42 GMT
+1 to Jan's votes

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
> +user@
>
> Thanks Joan for bringing this up!
>
> Thanks Lena for your perspective and courage to voice it here.
>
> Thanks all for your input.
>
> +1 on reworking the logo.
>  - an animal on the couch could do the trick, or just no person, but see the next point,
really. I’m not worried about logo confusion with Couchbase.
> +1 on letting professionals do it.
> -1 on a colour change. Maybe toning it towards the Fauxtony orange is an option, but
see the previous point.
> -1000 on renaming the project.
> +1 on moving on from “Relax” as a theme. It’s a Katzism and out of date as far
as the people who run the project now. Something around sync would be nice, any other completely
unrelated whimsy would also be appreciated.
>
> Best
> Jan
> --
>
>
>
>
>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:04 , Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically.
>>>
>>
>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the
>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who think
>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name and
>> clarify the situation as often as possible
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my whatever
>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a
>>> rename
>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ...
>>>>
>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake out an arbitrary
>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP.
>>>>>
>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names):
>>>>>
>>>>>    Eight Ball
>>>>>
>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball!
>>>>>
>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems. But it is worth
>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time to do it, if it
>>> is to
>>>>> be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. (cf. Max
>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes <kevin.r.coombes@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked" into
>>>>> everything
>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and hard copy
>>> references)
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How long do
you
>>> want
>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward users from
the
>>>>> current
>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. And the
last
>>>>> time I
>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or blue....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Kevin
>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <bradn@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *SyncDB*
>>>>>>>> The database that syncs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith ---10/30/2014
>>> 04:40:26
>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache
>>>>>> ]Jason
>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at
12:52 AM,
>>>>> Noah
>>>>>>>> Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is nice.
:) But the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change the
name too.
>>> I
>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the time.
It's
>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand, and
changing it
>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's done
we will
>>> all
>>>>>> wonder
>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much of that
strength
>>>>> can
>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will get tons
of
>>>>>> attention
>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that already
isn't
>>>>>> enough, we
>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of branding baggage
and
>>>>>>>> trademark problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Change the name!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>> RockIt!
>>>>
>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>>
>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Noah Slater
>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andy Wenk
>> Hamburg - Germany
>> RockIt!
>>
>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>
>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>

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