From user-return-23025-apmail-couchdb-user-archive=couchdb.apache.org@couchdb.apache.org Mon Dec 10 19:01:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 113BBD8E0 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 60032 invoked by uid 500); 10 Dec 2012 19:01:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 59981 invoked by uid 500); 10 Dec 2012 19:01:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 59973 invoked by uid 99); 10 Dec 2012 19:01:06 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:01:06 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.18.84.132] (HELO brightmail-internal3.sri.com) (128.18.84.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:00:56 +0000 X-AuditID: 80125484-b7fd06d000004640-94-50c631520f85 Received: from exchange-hub01.SRI.COM (exchange-hub01.SRI.COM [128.18.23.153]) (using TLS with cipher AES128-SHA (AES128-SHA/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by brightmail-internal3.sri.com (SRI Internal SMTP Gateway) with SMTP id 42.BA.17984.25136C05; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXCHANGE-DB08.SRI.COM ([fe80::a11e:7c21:6886:9a20]) by exchange-hub01.SRI.COM ([2002:8012:1799::8012:1799]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:00:31 -0800 From: Jim Klo To: "" Subject: Re: g+ community Thread-Topic: g+ community Thread-Index: AQHN1vjnneBmOUqSc0SNPQf4r7sEe5gS4v4AgAAGcYA= Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:00:30 +0000 Message-ID: <1E58B7CD-E8B2-474D-AE65-E96A0FEE5F31@sri.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.12.16.226] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7FCCA168-291E-41C1-B329-95B77031D2E5"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrMIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXSICQ+UzfI8FiAwbRtEhade/ayOTB6bPxw nDGAMYrLJiU1J7MstUjfLoEr49uBaWwFB7IrJr+6zdbAeDyxi5GTQ0LARGL1nT5mCFtM4sK9 9WxdjFwcQgI7mSRezn3FCuHsZpS48ecCWBWbgLzE4e0PwGwRAUuJWws+soDYwgKSEv+23oaK S0ksWPaYDcK2kng7rY2pi5GDg0VAVeL2lxyQMC9Q+PKxLewQ86czSsy99YcdJMEpECjxctdP sDmMQBd9P7WGCcRmFhCXuPVkPhPEpSISDy+eZoOwRSVePv7HCmErSqxr+gs2lFlgCqPE7XlL 2SC2CUqcnPmEZQKjyCwks2Yhq5uFpG4W0LHMAkkSNx9kQtRrSyxb+JoZwjaQeNr5ihVTXF/i zbs5TBC2qcTrox8ZIWxriRm/DrJB2IoSU7ofsi9g5F7FKJNUlJmeUZKbmJmjC4tQY73ioky9 5PzcTYzgqA1p2cG4YpfhIUYBDkYlHl7L0yoBQqyJZcWVuYcYJTiYlUR4IySOBQjxpiRWVqUW 5ccXleakFh9ilOZgURLnDTPm9xcSSE8sSc1OTS1ILYLJMnFwSjUw8ls9dw197rB2Y9o8ZX+N L99mhez5eVtBLTR6bgtH8pbktWn/JiQtKfzo//KwpvoqNzN59q8pAfwuW/9pv4y8rNzPt872 X2Oxhu6LF9MiZ/iFr9ZbJrrsWJI9c/vlI8Xr1sROfiA6+c2jHparWo83Zu0WPBQpvnZv1bf3 ly7zy4i5dyrsnfLcR4mlOCPRUIu5qDgRAMWfBcTWAgAA X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail=_7FCCA168-291E-41C1-B329-95B77031D2E5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2FB39237-4713-443F-94B9-21B8957A7979" --Apple-Mail=_2FB39237-4713-443F-94B9-21B8957A7979 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The apache list seems to work=85 Why change? It's easy to search via = Markmail=85 Maybe someone should place a link for searching the archives = with it somewhere? Additionally, you do realize that Google groups basically requires (or = creates) a G+ account nowadays right? Not sure what the benefit other = than building a more 'social couchdb forum' on G+ would be. IMHO the = Google Groups wouldn't be any different than the apache list - other = than you'd be fragmenting the user base. Google Groups is also somewhat = painful to search - they can be indexed w/ Markmail too. BTW=85 if you are participating on this list=85 you ARE doing social=85 = just not the FB, G+, Twitter way=85 but the old skool email way. Sorry = to disappoint. Jim Klo Senior Software Engineer Center for Software Engineering SRI International t. @nsomnac On Dec 10, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Mark Hahn wrote: > Wouldn't google groups make more sense? I follow about a dozen > technical projects on google groups. Couchdb is the only hold-out for > some bizarre reason. I suspect apache uses the last-century mailing > list technology because of their old roots. >=20 > I personally won't touch FB or G+. I don't do social and I've tried > both. They are too aggressive. >=20 > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Benoit Chesneau = wrote: >> Hi all, >>=20 >> For those who are on Google+, I've created a community to share and = discuss >> about of Apache CouchDB. Let's join us here: >>=20 >> https://plus.google.com/communities/112687873154936256826 >>=20 >> - beno=EEt --Apple-Mail=_2FB39237-4713-443F-94B9-21B8957A7979 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
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On Dec 10, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Mark Hahn <mark@hahnca.com>
 wr= ote:

Wouldn't google groups make more sense?  I follow = about a dozen
technical projects on google groups.  Couchdb is = the only hold-out for
some bizarre reason.  I suspect apache = uses the last-century mailing
list technology because of their old = roots.

I personally won't touch FB or G+.  I don't do social = and I've tried
both.  They are too aggressive.

On Mon, = Dec 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com> = wrote:
Hi all,

For those who are on = Google+, I've created a community to share and discuss
about of = Apache CouchDB. Let's join us here:

https:/= /plus.google.com/communities/112687873154936256826

- = beno=EEt

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