Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70A18DC75 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46309 invoked by uid 500); 16 Sep 2012 00:43:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-user-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 46283 invoked by uid 500); 16 Sep 2012 00:43:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 46275 invoked by uid 99); 16 Sep 2012 00:43:30 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:43:30 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FSL_RCVD_USER,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [50.22.11.19] (HELO bedford.accountservergroup.com) (50.22.11.19) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:43:26 +0000 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52]) by bedford.accountservergroup.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TD2wz-00039Z-Hg for user@couchdb.apache.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:43:05 -0500 Received: by lage4 with SMTP id e4so3186433lag.11 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.85.97 with SMTP id g1mr2616230lbz.101.1347756183898; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.127.201 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 20:43:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A new Garden From: "R.J. Steinert" To: user@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040167ed95cb7404c9c6f06a X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - bedford.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - couchdb.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rjsteinert.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --f46d040167ed95cb7404c9c6f06a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "simply having Garden to make the basic CouchApp stuff more approachable to more people is a great step forward" Agreed! I love the concept. Signup is not currently working for me, the signup button seems inactive. No js errors, nothing happens when it is clicked. -- RJ Steinert http://rjsteinert.com On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Ryan Ramage wrote: > Btw, if anyone wants to get (back) into couchapps, I have a super easy > template to fork and tryout: > > https://github.com/garden20/baseline-garden-app > > > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Ryan Ramage > wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Michiel de Jong > wrote: > >> many thanks for doing this! > > > > Thanks for the great feedback and really walking through it. I had > > most of it done for a while, just needed to really work hard to polish > > it up a bit more. > > > >> > >> I really like how install lets you choose "garden market" but also "or > >> paste a URL", easily usable. > >> > >> One question about pasting a URL though: it wasn't clear to me how i > >> can for instance install http://www.theinfinitemaze.com/ - should i > >> obtain some sort of app manifest URL from the independent app > >> publisher to paste in there? > >> > > > > Currently the only url that work in that field is a link to an app in > > _any_ garden market. Something that looks like: > > > > http://garden20.com/market/details/bookmarks > > > > We just wanted to show a way that you are not forced to use one > > market. Some work should be done to make that more clear. That being > > said > > we could probably sniff the url provided a little more, and if it is a > > regular couchapp provided a way to replicate it over to your garden. I > > will have to think about that. > > > > > >> I even think the "do you trust this app?" page can be toned down, when > >> i saw it i assumed that all apps would be sharing one data space. > >> Given that this is not the case, all an app could do is DoS you, > >> right? I mean, i think you could skip this "are you sure?" screen > >> even. > > > > It needs to be there in some form. I can send you a link like this: > > http://bit.ly/Qglbda To try and fool you. Just some safety measures. > > > >> > >> I'll think about if there is a way to port our existing remoteStorage > >> apps to CouchApp. They all use remoteStorage.js, so if we port that, > >> we would port all future apps on our platform automatically to your > >> platform. The main difference is the separation between data of > >> different apps, i think. > > > > I can see remote storage as a nice fit if people build hosted gardens > > from the smaller apps, and remoteStorage lets them save data to/from > > them. Also pouchdb is a great fit for this. > > > >> > >> ps, everybody else can stop trying to squat 'unwalled.garden20.com' as > >> a username, i already got it. :) > >> > > > > it truly is trying to be an unwalled garden. Good name :) > --f46d040167ed95cb7404c9c6f06a--