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On Nov 8, 2011, at November 8, 20119:41 AM, Ryan Ramage wrote:

> If you want a feel where you can go with couchapps, checkout Max
> Ogden's datacouch project:
>=20
> https://github.com/maxogden/datacouch
>=20
> While not purely couchapp, it shows the way on how to move past the
> boundaries of the traditional couchapp model.
>=20
> While Mikeal may be tired of doing backflips, I don't mind. The first
> couple of backflips you might hit your head, but then they become easy
> and you might find them invigorating as well. :)

It's a tradeoff. Sometimes it's worth the backflips. For some use cases =
you have no choice, writing an offline app you have many of the same =
constraints so you might as well write offline apps as couchapps.

Sometimes it's easy to forget how much of building couchapps is simple =
because CouchDB is simple, and writing an app in node.js with CouchDB as =
a datastore is still quite simple even if it's a little more complicated =
than a couchapp and as you start doing those backflips it might be =
simpler to break out of the couchapp model and keep CouchDB as a backend =
store.

-Mikeal

>=20
> Ryan
>=20
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mikeal Rogers =
<mikeal.rogers@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Nov 8, 2011, at November 8, 20118:47 AM, john.tiger wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 11/07/11 15:14, Mikeal Rogers wrote:
>>>> I wrote node-couchapp and i don't even remember what those flags =
did. i have since changed the command line api.
>>>>=20
>>>> couchapp push app.jshttp://localhost:5984/db
>>>=20
>>> Thks.  Wow, this is so simple and works great.
>>>=20
>>> Now a question:  since making a couch app is so easy, why are not =
more people using it ?  Are couch apps limited versus using a full MVC =
backend (ie Express, Strata, ..)
>>=20
>> There are definitely limitations, pulling info in to the page that =
isn't in your database isn't doable, _list and _show are pretty slow so =
you're limited to single page apps if you want to keep things really =
fast.
>>=20
>> For simple things, nothing is simpler than a couchapp, but as your =
app gets more complex you're going to start doing backflips to get it to =
fit in to the couchapp model.
>>=20
>> -Mikeal