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From Jason Smith <>
Subject Re: to CouchApp or not to CouchApp
Date Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:47:33 GMT
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Jens Alfke <> wrote:
> IMHO the best behavior is:
> - CouchDB intrinsically returns a 401, with the required WWW-Authenticate header. That
is the correct HTTP behavior when the client is trying to access a read-protected resource
without being authenticated.
> - There would be some way for a CouchApp to intercept and override this response, so
that it can instead return a custom response such as a 302 redirect to its own login page.
> Returning a 302 rather than a 401 is prioritizing the app-server usage of CouchDB over
the REST/database server usage, and I think that’s backwards. I agree with prior messages
in this thread that CouchApps are nifty but limited, and we shouldn’t be breaking regular
HTTP behavior in the server just so that CouchApps can show fancy login pages.

Totally agree.

However, once again, the word "CouchApp" confuses the discussion and
muddies the waters.

Forget about "CouchApp."

You click a link or bookmark and your browser (ultimately) goes to But you aren't

The *standard* response and also the Couchy response is 401.

The *typical* response that all web apps actually do (because they are
not simultaneously REST databases) is 302 bounce to a login page.

I am really loving this discussion. It is a tough problem. Thanks very
much to Marcello for keeping it going. Today I will investigate what
happens if you return 401 with WWW-Authenticate and also a Location
header. Is that allowed? Maybe we will get lucky and browsers will
bounce. Crossing fingers.

Iris Couch

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