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From: Mark Hahn <mark@boutiquing.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 22:17:40 -0700
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Subject: Re: Run Local Button - Improving End User Experience
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I would also only want the browser interface.  I don't even want the user to
know anything resides locally.  Of course they will have to check some
approval box at some point, but users never understand those anyway.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 15:57, Alexander Gabriel <alex@barbalex.ch> wrote:
> > awesome. What a killer idea. I want it!
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/6/9 Ryan Ramage <ryan.ramage@gmail.com>
> >
> >> I am in the mist of a idea, and wanted to run it past the community
> >> before I took it too far!
> >>
> >> As one of couches main features is the ability to replicate couchapps,
> >> I think it would be cool if couchapps
> >> could have a "Download + Run Local" button. Here is what clicking on
> >> that button would do:
>
> This is a cool idea and one that's been floating around in our
> collective heads in various forms for a while I'm sure.
>
> Max Ogden has this project: https://github.com/maxogden/chromecouch
> It's just a tool to discover the couch behind a CouchApp and replicate
> it to your local couch.
> It doesn't handle any of the downloading and installation of couch, though.
>
> Mikeal Rogers has this project: https://github.com/mikeal/pouchdb
> He and I are aiming to get to a place where a modern browser can
> support couchapp frameworks that seamlessly cache entire applications
> on the client browser for offline use by using an opaque couchdb
> object which syncs with the browsers IndexedDB.
>
> To me, making this a nice experience that comes for free with a modern
> browser is more compelling, but for those who want to run an Apache
> CouchDB on their own desktop some combination of system-tray and
> chromecouch work could be cool.
>
> If you want to get involved please jump on board :).
>
> >>
> >> 1. Have a branded splash start for the couchapp.
> >> 2. Start a process that downloads the latest couchdb for the users os
> >> 3. Configures the local couch with some sane desktop defaults.
> >> 4. Starts replication with the source db.
> >> 5. After replication is complete, launch the local browser to the
> couchapp.
> >>
> >> After that, the user would have:
> >> 1. a system tray icon (branded for that app) with some menu options
> >> (open local site, open remote site, exit...)
> >> 2. a desktop/system menu launch icon.
> >>
> >>
> >> The main goal here is a smooth experience for an end user for running
> >> a local couchapp, sync'd with the original couch.
> >>
> >> Implementation
> >>
> >> I have most of the pieces for this already in some of the apps I have
> >> built. Here is what I imagine:
> >>
> >> 1. A 'webstart design doc'. A couchapp that would want to use this
> >> would install a design doc. It would look kind of like this:
> >>
> >>
> http://reupholster.iriscouch.com/_utils/document.html?reupholster/_design/app
> >>    Yes, it is using java webstart, which is an old technology, but I
> >> have found it working surprisingly well with couchdb.
> >>
> >> 2. A small java desktop process. Handles downloading, starting,
> >> stopping, and config of the couch.
> >>   Yes, many of you will say java, blah blah :) ...but I also can see
> >> having an optional couchdb-lucene, or elastic search, embedded in the
> >> java process, connected with the new externals.
> >>
> >>
> >> So I send it out there, what do you think. Would this be valuable?
> >> Thoughts? Pitfalls? Duplicate projects?
> >>
> >>
> >> Ryan
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://eckoit.com - Keep what you hear.
> >> Twitter: @eckoit
> >>
> >
>


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