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From Benoit Chesneau <bchesn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Run Local Button - Improving End User Experience
Date Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:16:02 GMT
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Randall Leeds <randall.leeds@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 15:57, Alexander Gabriel <alex@barbalex.ch> wrote:
>>> awesome. What a killer idea. I want it!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/6/9 Ryan Ramage <ryan.ramage@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> I am in the mist of a idea, and wanted to run it past the community
>>>> before I took it too far!
>>>>
>>>> As one of couches main features is the ability to replicate couchapps,
>>>> I think it would be cool if couchapps
>>>> could have a "Download + Run Local" button. Here is what clicking on
>>>> that button would do:
>>
>> This is a cool idea and one that's been floating around in our
>> collective heads in various forms for a while I'm sure.
>>
>> Max Ogden has this project: https://github.com/maxogden/chromecouch
>> It's just a tool to discover the couch behind a CouchApp and replicate
>> it to your local couch.
>> It doesn't handle any of the downloading and installation of couch, though.
>>
>> Mikeal Rogers has this project: https://github.com/mikeal/pouchdb
>> He and I are aiming to get to a place where a modern browser can
>> support couchapp frameworks that seamlessly cache entire applications
>> on the client browser for offline use by using an opaque couchdb
>> object which syncs with the browsers IndexedDB.
>>
>> To me, making this a nice experience that comes for free with a modern
>> browser is more compelling, but for those who want to run an Apache
>> CouchDB on their own desktop some combination of system-tray and
>> chromecouch work could be cool.
>>
>> If you want to get involved please jump on board :).
>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Have a branded splash start for the couchapp.
>>>> 2. Start a process that downloads the latest couchdb for the users os
>>>> 3. Configures the local couch with some sane desktop defaults.
>>>> 4. Starts replication with the source db.
>>>> 5. After replication is complete, launch the local browser to the couchapp.
>>>>
>>>> After that, the user would have:
>>>> 1. a system tray icon (branded for that app) with some menu options
>>>> (open local site, open remote site, exit...)
>>>> 2. a desktop/system menu launch icon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The main goal here is a smooth experience for an end user for running
>>>> a local couchapp, sync'd with the original couch.
>>>>
>>>> Implementation
>>>>
>>>> I have most of the pieces for this already in some of the apps I have
>>>> built. Here is what I imagine:
>>>>
>>>> 1. A 'webstart design doc'. A couchapp that would want to use this
>>>> would install a design doc. It would look kind of like this:
>>>>
>>>> http://reupholster.iriscouch.com/_utils/document.html?reupholster/_design/app
>>>>    Yes, it is using java webstart, which is an old technology, but I
>>>> have found it working surprisingly well with couchdb.
>>>>
>>>> 2. A small java desktop process. Handles downloading, starting,
>>>> stopping, and config of the couch.
>>>>   Yes, many of you will say java, blah blah :) ...but I also can see
>>>> having an optional couchdb-lucene, or elastic search, embedded in the
>>>> java process, connected with the new externals.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I send it out there, what do you think. Would this be valuable?
>>>> Thoughts? Pitfalls? Duplicate projects?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ryan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://eckoit.com - Keep what you hear.
>>>> Twitter: @eckoit
>>>>
>>>
>>
> There os also refuge with farme rmodule:
>
> http://vimeo.com/24719190
>
> Auto discovery of nodes around. For the splash page have a look in 0.3
> release next week, there is also a ticket about in jira.
>

Also another start/stop work in progress:

http://vimeo.com/24262924

- benoît

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