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From Randall Leeds <>
Subject Re: How fast do CouchDB propagate changes to other nodes?
Date Sun, 19 Dec 2010 01:23:05 GMT
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 16:41, Paul Davis <> wrote:
> Right, I probably jumped a couple steps there:
> The unique datums we have to work with here are the _id/_rev pairs.
> Theoretically (if we ignore rev_stemming) the ordering with which
> these come to us is roughly unimportant.
> So the issue with our history (append only) is that there's no real
> way to order it such that we can efficiently seek through it to see
> what we have in common (that I can think of). Ie, replication still
> needs a way to say "I only need to send these bits". Right now its the
> src/dst/seq triple that lets us zip through only new edits.
> Well, theoretically, we could keep a merkle tree of all edits we've
> ever seen and go that way, but that'd require keeping a history of
> every edit ever seen which could never be removed.
> Granted this is just quick thinking. I could definitely be missing
> something clever.

We're on the same page. I don't have anything clever yet either.
The only other thing that's crossed my mind is some way to exchange
information about checkpoints each participant has with a third party.
You'd have to somehow verify that the checkpoint being presented to
you is actually one created by the third party, which involves trust
or verification. I like the verification route because I'd still love
to decouple the endpoint from its hostname, the idea that I was
stabbing quite horribly at when I prematurely proposed a couple
patches to give databases uuids. But back to the point, something like
"you got a bunch of edits since last we spoke, but I got these edits
from this other endpoint, are they the same ones?" Even then, I'm not
sure how this works without the merkle.

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