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From Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Experience Blog Post [Was:] Re: [NEWS] The CouchDB weekly news for December 8 is out!
Date Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:38:01 GMT
Hey Nick,

thanks for your reply. Please find my comments inline.

> On 12 Dec 2016, at 14:44, Nicholas Outram <nicholas.outram@plymouth.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andy
> 
> All things are possible I guess :)

great :D

> First, I’m working through the book by Paul Hudson on Server Side Swift - this features
CouchDB and makes for an ideal route in for me as I’m interested in using both. Keeping
everything in Swift makes a lot of sense for what I am doing.
> 
>>  Wouldn’t it be cool, to give the community an insight about your project. That
said, are you willing to write a short summary for the CouchDB blog? That would be super awesome.
> 
> I’d like to help, but it really depends on what you’re looking for.
> 
> My main problem is that I am new to this, so I cannot write as an authority of course
(I learn fast, but I still screw up ;)

I really want to leave that to you. My idea for the CouchDB blog is not a tutorial but more
like maybe a small series of posts. E.g:

	1st post e.g.: “What we plan to do” (We plan do build a App with Server Side Swift and
CouchDB)

	2nd post: “What we are doing” (maybe with some things that can be shown, inline code,
repo … depends on what you are willing to show)

	3ed post: “What we have learned” (The final app - available here …)

This is just an idea and is based on a post style, where you share your experience. Take it
like “We create an app with CouchDB and you can follow along …”.

> My plan is to first write a mobile app that will talk to Couch via a middleware layer
(Kitura) - the thinking is that this further abstracts / simplifies the mobile client interface
and reduces replicated effort for cross platform development. Another strong motivation is
that it helps with issues around security in CouchDB, the one area where I am still very unclear
and nervous.
> 
> Given that the whole NoSQL phenomena is fairly new to me (ok, 2 weeks old!) + I’m currently
working in isolation on this, I still have many questions to answer (but I like what I see).
From experience, once I’ve a completed a couple apps and learned from a few mistakes, I
should be in a better position to write with some confidence, albeit still as a newcomer.

as I said before. There is no pressure. Feel free to find the right moment to start writing
about it.

> e.g. I am very reluctant to publish / teach anything that falls into the “nasty hack”
/ insecure category!

absolutely! As I said before: you decide when the time is right to show sth. 

> In academic circles, we use peer reviewers to check work before it is published. It’s
a safety net that does checks on quality and accuracy. Out of interest, is there anyone out
there who can possibly play that role?

In the OpenSource project world you will most likely ask the users or developers to try and
review the things you created. In the past this, was often the case on the users@ mailing
list. People show what they have done (final stuff or work in progress) and ask people to
review and try out. I think the best way would be to post on users@ .

> Once the blog is out, the next step is to feature it on iTunes U.

That’s awesome. I think at least when this is step is accomplished, a blog post with what
you have done and where you share your knowledge (iTunes U should be written) has to be written
;-).

> Happy to talk if you prefer (contact details below)

Let’s use the ML here so that other folks can jump into the discussion. Please don’t feel
forced to write anything. And please keep in mind, that we are always very interested in “real
life” CouchDB implementations and are happy to help in any way - like writing about this
together.

Thanks a lot and all the best. I highly appreciate the good conversation!

Andy

> Nick
> 
> Dr Nicholas Outram
> Associate Professor (SL) in Computing and Electronics
> School of Computing, Electronics and Mathematics
> Plymouth University, UK
> PL4 8AA
>  
>  
> (email / Skype for Business): nicholas.outram@plymouth.ac.uk
> (mobile / iMessage): +44 7540 695741 
> (office): +44 1752 586257
> (twitter): noutram_at_uop
>  
> iTunes U course: iOS Development in Swift: http://iTunes.com/plymouthswift
> 
> blog: http://weblog.outram.org
> 
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> 
>> On 12 Dec 2016, at 11:40, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Nick,
>> 
>> wow this is super awesome. CouchDB does fit for specific task extremely well. If
you have any questions or need help, please don’t hesitate to get in touch with the community
writing to user@couchdb.apache.org or dev@couchdb.apache.org.
>> 
>> I am really looking forward to read your experience in your blog. But let me ask
a question. Wouldn’t it be cool, to give the community an insight about your project. That
said, are you willing to write a short summary for the CouchDB blog? That would be super awesome.
>> 
>> CouchDB is a relatively small project and we are always looking for people and projects
using it. People helping to spread the word are extrem welcomed contributors to the project.

>> 
>> I am more than happy to read your answer ;-)
>> 
>> Thanks and all the best
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> P.S.: Can we move this conversation to marketing@couchdb.apache.org?
>> 
>> --
>> Andy Wenk
>> RockIt!
>> 
>> Hamburg / Germany
>> 
>> GPG public key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4F1D0C59BC90917D
>> 
>>> On 9 Dec 2016, at 11:20, Nicholas Outram <nicholas.outram@plymouth.ac.uk>
wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andy
>>> 
>>> I just saw your post on the mailing list.
>>> 
>>> I’m working flat out on getting up to speed on CouchDB and Kitura. The plan
is to get our computing students using both next Semester, and to build a mobile/middleware
solution to address a particular concern (This year, the concern is education, so live interaction
in class is likely to feature).
>>> 
>>> The recommendation for the iOS students will be to use Kitura + CouchDB, or just
Couch if they prefer. For those on Android, I’m less clear at this point in time (the seductive
lure of server side Swift on Kitura is not a selling point for Android devs).
>>> 
>>> The plan is then two-fold:
>>> • I will be updating my blog - if I am happy with the outcome, I’d be happy
to share if it’s useful for the apache blog.
>>> 
>>> • It might be the best groups could also write blog articles
>>> 
>>> • Once polished, the taught materials will end up on iTunes U http://itunes.com/plymouthswift
(which has around 40K+ subscribers right now) and features here https://developer.apple.com/swift/resources/
 (I am not against iCloud, I just prefer Couch and Kitura as more generic tools;)
>>> I also see Couch fitting into the embedded and IoT space - from next year, all
our embedded development boards will support networking and will use the mbed framework (backed
by ARM). Clearly, the restful interface divorces any need for any drivers - so for stage-2
electronics students, they will be briefed on using Couch for remote logging of data. I think
this is a space where Couch could find a strong foothold.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Nick Outram
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dr Nicholas Outram
>>> Associate Professor (SL) in Computing and Electronics
>>> School of Computing, Electronics and Mathematics
>>> Plymouth University, UK
>>> PL4 8AA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (email / Skype for Business): nicholas.outram@plymouth.ac.uk
>>> (mobile / iMessage): +44 7540 695741 
>>> (office): +44 1752 586257
>>> (twitter): noutram_at_uop
>>> 
>>> iTunes U course: iOS Development in Swift: http://iTunes.com/plymouthswift
>>> 
>>> blog: http://weblog.outram.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Dec 2016, at 09:45, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Bill,
>>>> 
>>>> thanks for reaching out to us and awesome to hear, that you are now a CouchDB
and PouchDB fanboy ;-). 
>>>> 
>>>> Would you be interested to share your experiences by writing a blog post
for https://blog.couchdb.org/? We would assist you with it as much as we can ;-) To organise
or discuss this further, please use the Marketing mailing-list marketing@couchdb.apache.org.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you and all the best
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>> RockIt!
>>>> 
>>>> Hamburg / Germany
>>>> 
>>>> GPG public key: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4F1D0C59BC90917D
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Dec 2016, at 08:15, bill2@ezinvoice.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jenn, and all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve been playing with CouchDB/PouchDB/JQuery/Bootstrap to make a sort
of blog/sharing site:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://ibloc.com <http://ibloc.com/>
>>>>> 
>>>>> It’s kind of like https://medium.com <https://medium.com/> and
"https://news.ycombinator.com <https://news.ycombinator.com/>”, which are two of my
favorite sites to take a break from work with.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The code is a mess because I’ve really just been hacking and playing,
and I’ve still got some things I’d like to add and tweak there, but I think it's a pretty
fun app and it only took a couple days to rough it out, which just amazes me. Those four tools
work so well together they should come in a boxed set. Sucks that I can’t think of a snazzy
acronym for them, but I’ve tried and still got nothing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyway, I’ll clean the code up soon but I wanted to share it here since
we don’t get to see enough stuff made just for fun and if anyone wants to post something
there, well, that would just make my day.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill Stephenson
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Jenn Turner <jenn@thehoodiefirm.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello there!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The CouchDB weekly news is now live at:
>>>>>> https://blog.couchdb.org/2016/12/08/couchdb-weekly-news-december-8-2016/
<https://blog.couchdb.org/2016/12/08/couchdb-weekly-news-december-8-2016/>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Highlights include new videos, new uses cases for PouchDb and CouchDB,
plus burmese pythons take over :/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks to Dave and Ronan for contributing content!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can help us spread the news by sharing on Twitter (https://twitter.com/CouchDB/status/806900432261918721
<https://twitter.com/CouchDB/status/806900432261918721>) and other social networks.

>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, if you have news for next week, just REPLY to this thread.

>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenn Turner
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>>>>> 
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