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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:00:24 +0100
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Subject: Re: Retiring AdvocateHub
From: Harald Kisch <haraldkisch@gmail.com>
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Hi Noah,

can you give me a list of tasks which are necessary for contribution?
I am also interested in the up-front investment tasks to get trained up.

It feels like feeding a dying horse but if you have medicine, we could get
it up and running.
For me the horse looks strong enough and if the the contribution takes 1 to
2 hours a week in the running phase, I can contribute much longer than 6
months.

--Harald


On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:

> thanks Klaus <3
>
> Harald: for this to make sense you'd probably have to commit about 4 hours
> per week for a significant period of time (say 6 months at a minimum). it
> would also require an up-front investment of time to get yourself trained
> up on the hub
>
> I realise that's a lot! is it something you're still interested in?
>
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 at 12:24 Harald Kisch <haraldkisch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Hi Noah,
> >
> > i do not like to see such work getting retired.
> > With 1 or 2 hours a week I would take care about it. Can you tell me
> which
> > actions are necessary to prevent the Advocate Hub from getting retired?
> >
> > --Harald
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Klaus Trainer <
> klaus_trainer@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/18/2015 05:08 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> > > > thanks Johns! any other opinions on this?
> > >
> > > No opinion here on this particular issue.
> > >
> > > However, I'd like to express my deep gratitude for what you've done for
> > us.
> > >
> > > Starting with CouchDB's previous build system, you've cared more and
> > > more about issues that are critical to building a great community,
> which
> > > are the actual important ones. You've put in a a lot of work that
> > > requires a lot of energy, and can sometimes be draining.
> > >
> > > Thank you so much, Noah!
> > >
> > >
> > > To all:
> > >
> > > I know it's easier said than done, but let's not feel bad about not
> > > contributing (any)more! It kills the fun that we are supposed to have,
> > > and prevents us from enjoying what we came here for in the first place.
> > >
> > > Take care everybody!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Klaus
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 at 04:43 Johs Ensby <johs@b2w.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Noah,
> > > >>
> > > >> Retire this thing with a good feeling of accomplishment, it has
> > surved a
> > > >> good purpose.
> > > >> You made us aware of the need for a community to build content on
> > Quora
> > > >> and Stockoverflow and keep doing stuff in SoMe.
> > > >>
> > > >> The only thing that heals a burnout is to practice what we preach;
> > Relax
> > > >> Johs
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 15. nov. 2015, at 01.14, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hey folks,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sorry for not being around much. I've been struggling with burnout
> > and
> > > >>> I haven't been able to contribute to CouchDB since April.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Unfortunately that means our AdvocateHub program hasn't had anybody
> > > >>> running it, and it's been in steady decline since I left.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here's a graph of monthly challenge completions:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://i.imgur.com/yd3IvaS.png
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This is a shame. I think AdvocateHub is a great product. And I
> firmly
> > > >>> believe that an advocate marketing programme could be hugely
> > > >>> beneficial for CouchDB. But it needs someone with the time (and the
> > > >>> spoons) to run it. For the time being, that isn't me.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If someone is prepared to go through the AdvocateHub training
> > > >>> programme, and commit some minimum amount of hours to it on a
> weekly
> > > >>> basis (four or more is probably advisable) I would be more than
> happy
> > > >>> to connect you with our account manager at Influitive. I could also
> > > >>> share my private notes and ideas with you.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Otherwise, I propose we retire it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Noah Slater
> > > >>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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