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From Jan Lehnardt <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Retiring AdvocateHub
Date Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:51:30 GMT
We’ve recently did some specific outreach for an editorial team at Hoodie,
maybe something like this can work for CouchDB and running the Hub, too?

https://github.com/hoodiehq/discussion/issues/84

Best
Jan
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> On 19 Nov 2015, at 23:21, Joan Touzet <wohali@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Noah for getting it started, and Harald for driving this further!
> 
> CouchDB does need a social media presence, and AdvocateHub is a great
> gamification strategy to drive that further.
> 
> -Joan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harald Kisch" <haraldkisch@gmail.com>
>> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 7:00:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: Retiring AdvocateHub
>> 
>> Hi Noah,
>> 
>> can you give me a list of tasks which are necessary for contribution?
>> I am also interested in the up-front investment tasks to get trained
>> up.
>> 
>> It feels like feeding a dying horse but if you have medicine, we
>> could get
>> it up and running.
>> For me the horse looks strong enough and if the the contribution
>> takes 1 to
>> 2 hours a week in the running phase, I can contribute much longer
>> than 6
>> months.
>> 
>> --Harald
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> thanks Klaus <3
>>> 
>>> Harald: for this to make sense you'd probably have to commit about
>>> 4 hours
>>> per week for a significant period of time (say 6 months at a
>>> minimum). it
>>> would also require an up-front investment of time to get yourself
>>> trained
>>> up on the hub
>>> 
>>> I realise that's a lot! is it something you're still interested in?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 at 12:24 Harald Kisch <haraldkisch@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Noah,
>>>> 
>>>> i do not like to see such work getting retired.
>>>> With 1 or 2 hours a week I would take care about it. Can you tell
>>>> me
>>> which
>>>> actions are necessary to prevent the Advocate Hub from getting
>>>> retired?
>>>> 
>>>> --Harald
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Klaus Trainer <
>>> klaus_trainer@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/18/2015 05:08 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>>>>> thanks Johns! any other opinions on this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> No opinion here on this particular issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, I'd like to express my deep gratitude for what you've
>>>>> done for
>>>> us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Starting with CouchDB's previous build system, you've cared
>>>>> more and
>>>>> more about issues that are critical to building a great
>>>>> community,
>>> which
>>>>> are the actual important ones. You've put in a a lot of work
>>>>> that
>>>>> requires a lot of energy, and can sometimes be draining.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you so much, Noah!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To all:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know it's easier said than done, but let's not feel bad about
>>>>> not
>>>>> contributing (any)more! It kills the fun that we are supposed
>>>>> to have,
>>>>> and prevents us from enjoying what we came here for in the
>>>>> first place.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care everybody!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Klaus
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 at 04:43 Johs Ensby <johs@b2w.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Noah,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Retire this thing with a good feeling of accomplishment, it
>>>>>>> has
>>>> surved a
>>>>>>> good purpose.
>>>>>>> You made us aware of the need for a community to build
>>>>>>> content on
>>>> Quora
>>>>>>> and Stockoverflow and keep doing stuff in SoMe.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The only thing that heals a burnout is to practice what we
>>>>>>> preach;
>>>> Relax
>>>>>>> Johs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 15. nov. 2015, at 01.14, Noah Slater
>>>>>>>> <nslater@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sorry for not being around much. I've been struggling with
>>>>>>>> burnout
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> I haven't been able to contribute to CouchDB since April.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately that means our AdvocateHub program hasn't had
>>>>>>>> anybody
>>>>>>>> running it, and it's been in steady decline since I left.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here's a graph of monthly challenge completions:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/yd3IvaS.png
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is a shame. I think AdvocateHub is a great product.
>>>>>>>> And I
>>> firmly
>>>>>>>> believe that an advocate marketing programme could be
>>>>>>>> hugely
>>>>>>>> beneficial for CouchDB. But it needs someone with the time
>>>>>>>> (and the
>>>>>>>> spoons) to run it. For the time being, that isn't me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If someone is prepared to go through the AdvocateHub
>>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>>> programme, and commit some minimum amount of hours to it
on
>>>>>>>> a
>>> weekly
>>>>>>>> basis (four or more is probably advisable) I would be more
>>>>>>>> than
>>> happy
>>>>>>>> to connect you with our account manager at Influitive. I
>>>>>>>> could also
>>>>>>>> share my private notes and ideas with you.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, I propose we retire it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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