Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B40BA10747 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 19:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67342 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2015 19:02:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 67308 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2015 19:02:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 67287 invoked by uid 99); 9 Sep 2015 19:02:19 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Sep 2015 19:02:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 5C923180425; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 19:02:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GXUbfHRMz5EV; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 19:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net (smtp.justsomehost.net [204.11.51.157]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTP id C17EA42B13; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 19:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A42B438C8; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:02:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jsent.ca Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.justsomehost.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IIE7sbT+2sYH; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net (smtp.justsomehost.net [204.11.51.157]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE88438C6; Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 15:02:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Touzet Reply-To: Joan Touzet To: private@couchdb.apache.org Cc: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Message-ID: <20350143.1154.1441825321707.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> In-Reply-To: <4EF8CFE9-C4F8-405A-BB61-802779704154@apache.org> Subject: Re: Brainstorm: A new CouchDB tag-line? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [204.11.51.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.7_GA_2942 (Zimbra Desktop/7.2.7_12059_Windows) +1 ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Lehnardt" > To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org > Cc: private@couchdb.apache.org > Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 11:45:40 AM > Subject: Re: Brainstorm: A new CouchDB tag-line? >=20 > I=E2=80=99d like to get this wrapped up and I propose a similar process t= o > what we did for the logo: >=20 > 1. Have us (marketing@) come up with a few alternative approaches > (all addressing WHY, HOW, WHAT, split out in a Slogan (WHY), Mission > Statement (HOW) and Description (WHAT) that we can use all over our > messaging. >=20 > 2. Put the candidates to a vote here on marketing@, the top 5-10 (if > we get that many) then go to a vote on dev@ >=20 > 3. From the vote result on dev@, the PMC then makes a decision on the > final set. >=20 > It=E2=80=99d be great if we get this rounded up by ApacheCon EU (that=E2= =80=99s Sept > 28), and because of that, I propose the following schedule: >=20 > marketing@ vote on Sept 15 (next Tuesday), gives us just under a week > to drum up a few alternatives >=20 > dev@ vote on Sept 18 right after the marketing@ vote closes. There is > no more discussion at this point, this is an automatic procedure. >=20 > PMC starts deciding from Sept 21, right after the dev@ vote and we=E2=80= =99ll > try to get this wrapped by Sept 25, so we have a few days to spare, > and time to prepare materials for the 28th. >=20 > All aboard? >=20 > Best > Jan > -- >=20 >=20 > > On 29 Aug 2015, at 11:56, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > >=20 > > (repost in the right thread, sorry about that) > >=20 > > Thanks for getting this discussion going again, Joan! > >=20 > > Here is where we discussed this last fall: Thread =E2=80=9CNew motto?= =E2=80=9D: > > http://apache.markmail.org/thread/6k6qtc65vtnse5ls (incomplete > > results, because the MarkMail interface is weird, but should get > > you the main parts) > >=20 > > In there, we follow the search for our WHY, which defines our HOW > > and that in turn defines our WHAT (context > > http://markmail.org/message/346bxv4v3sq7ofoj) > >=20 > > Noah summed up our discussion back then > > (http://markmail.org/message/h2dm233yjuphtufw): > >=20 > >> WHY -- Getting your data where ever you need it (mobile, > >> geolocations, cloud, etc) > >=20 > >> HOW -- Sync protocol (with CouchDB as the reference > >> implementation) > >=20 > >> WHAT -- Erlang, MapReduce, CouchDB Query, REST, JSON, JavaScript, > >> etc., etc. > >=20 > >=20 > > The slogan we are looking for now is addressing the WHY and the WHY > > only. The HOW and the WHAT also deserve treatment though, but > > these need to live elsewhere. > >=20 > > Let=E2=80=99s attempt to organise this a little: > >=20 > > Project name: Apache CouchDB > >=20 > > Nickname: CouchDB > >=20 > > Slogan: Data where you need it. (WHY) > >=20 > > Mission Statement: Apache CouchDB aims to foster an ecosystem of > > software that can flexibly share data with each other by defining > > a universal synchronisation protocol. (HOW) > >=20 > > Description: CouchDB is the focal point of the Couch Sync Protocol > > suite which is implemented by an ecosystem of projects that all > > work in concert to fulfil a universal vision: being able to share > > and access data where it has the most value, from cross > > data-center cluster to mobile phones. CouchDB is an > > Erlang-implementation of the Couch Sync Protocol with a strong > > focus on reliability, durability and scaling. CouchDB uses HTTP > > for its API, JSON for documents, and a developer-friendly query > > language and optionally MapReduce for efficient data retrieval. > > (WHAT) > >=20 > > * * * > >=20 > > Let=E2=80=99s collect variations of this and counter examples, but let= =E2=80=99s > > keep the same form: > > 1. Address the WHY, HOW and WHAT > > 2. Define: Name, Nickname, Slogan, Mission Statement and > > Description (we can rename the labels later, for now it is > > important to get the copy text for the WHY, HOW and WHAT right). > >=20 > >=20 > > * * * > >=20 > > FWIW: PouchDB nicked the =E2=80=9CThe database that syncs=E2=80=9D from= an email of > > mine on dev@ two years ago, when this was discussed first (and > > kudos to them for realising it is a great slogan and running with > > it!). I see no harm in the two projects sharing this, or > > coordinating, e.g. CouchDB: The database that syncs. PouchDB: The > > JavaScript database that syncs, or somesuch. (not saying this is a > > proposal of mine, but if anyone wants to advocate it, I=E2=80=99d be ha= ppy > > to listen and hear a proposal). > >=20 > > * * * > >=20 > > Thanks! > > Jan > > -- > >> On 10 Aug 2015, at 16:06, Joan Touzet wrote: > >>=20 > >> Hey everyone, > >>=20 > >> I don't know where we landed on this discussion last time, but I'm > >> fairly sure we didn't come to any sort of agreement. > >>=20 > >> Our current tag-line for CouchDB is pretty unwieldy: > >>=20 > >> "Apache CouchDB is a database that uses JSON for documents, > >> JavaScript for MapReduce indexes, and regular HTTP for its > >> API" > >>=20 > >> With the addition of mango, it's also inaccurate. I'm sure we can > >> do > >> better! > >>=20 > >> Previously I remember seeing the suggestion: > >>=20 > >> "Apache CouchDB: The database that {replicates|syncs}." > >>=20 > >> I'm finding that really snappy. If you had to pick a single > >> feature that > >> CouchDB does better than anyone else, it's the multi-master > >> replication. > >> It does leave out a lot of great things we do, though. > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> Here's the taglines of some of our "competitors": > >>=20 > >> "The Apache Cassandra database is the right choice when you need > >> scalability and high availability without compromising > >> performance." > >>=20 > >> "Apache HBase=E2=84=A2 is the Hadoop database, a distributed, scalable= , > >> big > >> data store." > >>=20 > >> "The Apache=E2=84=A2 Hadoop=C2=AE project develops open-source softwar= e for > >> reliable, > >> scalable, distributed computing." > >>=20 > >> "CouchBase 3.0: A distributed database engineered for performance, > >> scalability, and simplified administration." > >>=20 > >> "MongoDB: Agility, scalability, performance. Pick three." > >>=20 > >> "Redis is an open source, BSD licensed, advanced key-value cache > >> and > >> store." > >>=20 > >> "Riak KV is a distributed NoSQL database that is highly available, > >> scalable and easy to operate" > >>=20 > >> "ElasticSearch: Search & Analyze Data in Real Time" > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> What other ideas do you have for a tagline for CouchDB? The only > >> rules > >> are: one sentence, the shorter the better, and focused on > >> CouchDB's > >> unique strength(s). > >>=20 > >> -Joan > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> Disclaimer: This is brainstorming only. The discussion may or may > >> not > >> lead to a new CouchDB tagline. Please, no negativity. > >=20 > > -- > > Professional Support for Apache CouchDB: > > http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/ > >=20 >=20 > -- > Professional Support for Apache CouchDB: > http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/ >=20 >=20