Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C52318BE6 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 92616 invoked by uid 500); 17 Aug 2015 20:14:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 92574 invoked by uid 500); 17 Aug 2015 20:14:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 92557 invoked by uid 99); 17 Aug 2015 20:14:11 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:14:11 +0000 Received: from inthecloud.home (ool-44c2224e.dyn.optonline.net [68.194.34.78]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 17D5F1A009B for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:14:10 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: [NEWS] Fauxton visual guide From: Michelle Phung In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:14:08 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9129193F-7431-4126-9F78-45A89355C217@apache.org> References: <089D5EB3-F40C-4074-9B9F-BF1A4193C8AA@apache.org> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) Hi Ermouth, Regarding the visual guide, I think there are some changes I can make = right away: namely the Hi at the end, and the Answers section. Someone brought this = up before as well, but the problem was, I wasn=E2=80=99t happy with just = =E2=80=9Cthank you for reading.=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cgoodbye=E2=80=9D. Regarding a designer who is familiar with Fauxton=E2=80=A6 I don=E2=80=99t know any.=20 The designers we have now will have to be caught up a bit on how CouchDB = works, and how Fauxton works. I would love to redesign the flow of information, but I=E2=80=99m not a = very good designer, and I=E2=80=99m not sure if I can convince people to = go with designs from someone who doesn=E2=80=99t have much design clout. What did you think of my diagram last email for each section? I think I = can implement it fairly easily with css only. Michelle > On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:28 AM, ermouth wrote: >=20 > Hi, Michelle. >=20 >> as they struggle against what=E2=80=99s going on with picture on the = left side >=20 > They won=E2=80=98t struggle. Users just leave. Right now Fauxton UI is = more > self-explaining than guide for it. >=20 >> I am still thinking about: should i redo the whole thing, or keep the > design and just add a toggle for the above alternative view >=20 > /*Putting on art-director hat*/ > Ask designer, who is familiar with Fauxton, to make it better. Or =E2=80= =93 redo it > by yourself. >=20 > Layout definitely requires much, much more work: >=20 > * increase text contrast > * remove ALL unnecessary gaps, start screens, irrelevant giant images = and > so on (you do not sell or advertise, you give info =E2=80=93 so give = info, not > space) > * comfortable position for long texts is center, not right side > * text width must no exceed 700-800 px, better 700 than 800 > * put texts and images in a single column, zigzag reading is very = annoying > * most images can be trimmed from the bottom > * since it=E2=80=98s a guide, make navigation always visible > * in Headers section most of screenshots can be combined in a single = image > * logically linked texts must not have n*100px gaps (like in Header = bar > section) > * never make callouts, that are directed opposite to text (some of = your > callouts goes left, although text it at the right) >=20 > Also it seems that Answers section at the end is completelly = irrelevant. > After reading guides most users have questions about the product = itself, > not about =E2=80=98How can I contribute=E2=80=99. >=20 > Couch with Hi at the end is also completely irrelevant. Hi at the end? = May > be =E2=80=98Thank you for reading=E2=80=99? >=20 > BR >=20 > ermouth