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From Miles Fidelman <>
Subject Re: the future of couchapp
Date Fri, 08 May 2015 15:21:28 GMT
Let's be clear.
(Good) marketing isn't about selling a solution to folks who don't have 
a problem in the first place, it's about it's identifying problems for 
which we offer a solution.

And.. it occurs to me that Cloudant has been doing market research and 
"real" marketing - perhaps some folks from Cloudant might share some 
findings related to CouchDB (as opposed to those that might relate to 
their commercial extensions and services)?

Miles Fidelman

Giovanni Lenzi wrote:
>> translates user@ decisions in "how to drive them to the public"?
> or maybe better how to drive dev@ implemented features to the public ?
> 2015-05-08 16:57 GMT+02:00 Giovanni Lenzi <>:
>> Got it, Joan. Thanks for the useful reminder, considered I am a total
>> newbie here, I definitely don't know how decision-making process is driven.
>> We will cut the "features" part from this discussion then and take it to
>> the devs@ list
>> Here we should then focus on @jan's request about the story for
>> couchapps.. given that until 2 days ago that was somehow uncertain
>> But I think too this is more a user@ topic... isn't maybe marketing more
>> appropriate to translates user@ decisions in "how to drive them to the
>> public"? If you all agree with that, you can move this discussion to user@
>> or dev@, don't know what is preferable.
>> 2015-05-08 15:56 GMT+02:00 Joan Touzet <>:
>>> Hi all,
>>> PMC hat on...
>>> Reminding you *again* that we should not be using the MARKETING list to
>>> discuss new FEATURES and functionality for Apache CouchDB. We are not
>>> like a company where marketing makes up what they want to do, and
>>> development is forced to implement it. While it's a good idea to have a
>>> feedback loop between marketing and development, I am especially keen to
>>> not see Apache CouchDB turn into a marketing-driven development effort.
>>> If you are proposing new CouchDB features, please make those proposals
>>> on the dev@ mailing list. And if you are willing to *develop* and
>>> *support* those functions - even better. Current CouchDB development
>>> bandwidth is extremely limited, and would best be served by helping you
>>> to understand the current design's constraints, and the difficulties
>>> that may be inherent in what you ask for.
>>> Best regards,
>>> Joan
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Giovanni Lenzi" <>
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 4:05:12 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: the future of couchapp
>>>>> A service-trigger feature could be one of the new features of Couch
>>>>> apps.
>>>> if possible, would be awesome :)
>>>>> some clear design goals and a very limited set of features to add
>>>>> to
>>>> CouchDB ddocs and focus on an in-browser tool (add features to
>>>> Fauxton)
>>>> that removes the need for new developers to learn git and build tools
>> --
>> Giovanni Lenzi
>> Smileupps Cloud App Store

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra

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