Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFA7D18926 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6253 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2015 10:25:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 6218 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2015 10:25:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 6201 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2015 10:25:50 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:25:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [54.191.145.13] (HELO mx1-us-west.apache.org) (54.191.145.13) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:25:45 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 2E9B8230A3 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by widdi4 with SMTP id di4so87142936wid.0 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 03:24:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thewizards.ro; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gY8T10+4ZJkS157SJ5+QaOTmEXBO2y7YLPlvKjRn3d8=; b=Fx6oprgVzyHss/6TOV2gR7aPBanOdzTDLbLHx0iCyOXVynb+/dD/MJlt1+B2bDuD7P vqw0LdjaRl4w56p+N2LsSRQnaIRBahjgKbZQBrONloyFaMdR5FNxgA7gyVo2IkYv4Aja W91ELvB0G5Cv//kjxT6GZlI4wpq228ygZJh+o= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gY8T10+4ZJkS157SJ5+QaOTmEXBO2y7YLPlvKjRn3d8=; b=Ug6Uu04jxIk1/NJN2Xcb6phSAhbzCjht+XTAHkvV+tOH2HWP/Gw5YmH0Jg+6CUKSI3 cmzd7jraomds52kug9hviux9b1/weJ0+XhFOeqm0xgUGhACBLP/iAssh97arG3YTPbMe VPfN3nO3rD1OBvnT95BVwo/JW4gd5a2NaUJoNmFhqoU9YDpKCbSmGQ5ryVHETUfYdQj/ rHwtQv6nSJJba+OKJj0IO18KbdotwGp9EyZhV3Z7DK+qtOHi6qviLyC1zmfWc5dOuH8k mRUeQaJfOGjs17CqOGiMjSW0bAVzJ99HuEHnEdonw2Jg4U2hs1hTs9xBysPFy/e60JXW 4BMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmSKwS2tV3y1rS+s3yjKkvlRvBwfxHEPbBjYWWtQ7yHEaoJInBdzZc6h30xjR3yw556GujL MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.96.138 with SMTP id ds10mr13517418wib.95.1429784658663; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 03:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.54.194 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 03:24:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4048171.69.1429754586639.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:24:18 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Proposed logo revision proposal From: Constantin Angheloiu To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442847aaf721e051461ae21 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --f46d0442847aaf721e051461ae21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi there, i am happy to hear that you liked the logo i've made. @ermouth, have a loog at this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwCSb3J9EzV3dTlpSGpzTHNBM1U/view?usp=3Dsha= ring 1. those are cusp, becauze there should be no curves 2. those curves follows the font ones thank you, constantin On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:38 AM, ermouth wrote: > > I consider the sofa arms and the font and colour changes to be > significant. > > More important they produced result that is much weaker than original. > > And another low hanging fruits to correct in original: > * joints of straight lines and curves are cusp (!) =E2=80=93 and they de= finitely > must be smooth; > * there are too many unnecessery points on curves. > > > ermouth > > 2015-04-23 11:00 GMT+03:00 Nick North : > > > One person's slight correction is another's significant change. I > consider > > the sofa arms and the font and colour changes to be significant. > > > > Nick > > > > On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 at 08:49 ermouth wrote: > > > > > > if someone wanted a variant on that, it would have been better to > > > have proposed it at the voting stage and not afterwards > > > > > > Something terrible gonna happen if someone tries to correct quite > untidy > > > logo? If someone made slight corrections 21 of April, not 19 of April= =E2=80=93 > > > what happens? > > > > > > You need good, reproducable logo, right? Now proposed version is at > least > > > technically weak and definitely need minor corrections. There is no > > > breaking any rules in cleaning what is untidy. You need result, don= =E2=80=98t > be > > so > > > stubborn with rules. > > > > > > And, by the way, tweaked version proposed by Mr. Young is weaker than > > > original =E2=80=93 so it was good idea to hire professional graphic d= esigner to > > > ...mmm... brush sofa a little. > > > > > > Low hanging fruits: > > > * randomness of gaps is inconsistent, gaps widths must be unified to > > avoid > > > weird effects on low-res devices > > > * width and height of other elts better be multiples of a gap width = =E2=80=93 > > same > > > reason > > > * internal roundings better be tuned to eliminate effect of aggressi= ve > > > visual field =E2=80=93 now I definitely see one > > > > > > > > > > > > ermouth > > > > > > 2015-04-23 10:17 GMT+03:00 Nick North : > > > > > > > +1 to Jason and Andy's emails. Designing this sort of thing by > everyone > > > > making tweaks seldom leads to a good outcome. And we voted for > > > Constantin's > > > > design; if someone wanted a variant on that, it would have been > better > > to > > > > have proposed it at the voting stage and not afterwards. > > > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 at 07:50 Andy Wenk wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 what Json said. > > > > > > > > > > I like the logo as it was created by Constantin. The font type is > > fresh > > > > and > > > > > imho there is no need to combine the old with the new one. The > color > > of > > > > the > > > > > word relax is changeable from situation to situation. So it can b= e > > grey > > > > or > > > > > red. > > > > > > > > > > The email address of Constantin is > > constantin.angheloiu@thewizards.ro > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > On 23 April 2015 at 05:31, Jason Smith > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly will not veto or hold up any decision. But my > > preference > > > > (and > > > > > > advice) is: use it as-is. Keep the singular vision from a singl= e > > > > > designer. > > > > > > (I thought that was one objective of this process.) We committe= e > > > > members > > > > > > each have tweaks we might make, so that checks all of the boxes > > for a > > > > > > bike-shed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's just go with it. It's great. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Joan Touzet > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > While we're doing our $0.02, I like the armrests on > Constantin's > > > > > > > more than your rework. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The text is fine, but I'd love to see someone whose job is > > graphic > > > > > > > design take a stab at it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Alexander Shorin" > > > > > > > > To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org > > > > > > > > Cc: constantin@thewizards.ro > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:04:46 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Proposed logo revision proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Benjamin Young > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Here's the comparison of the three logos (old, > Constantin's, > > > and > > > > my > > > > > > > > > tweaked variation) plus some minimal explanation: > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/poe12ktf8c05h5m/comparison.svg?dl=3D0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You changes looks good for me. But you need to centrify > Apache > > > work > > > > > > > > between C and H, and make relax not get far away from DB > > > > boundaries. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ,,,^..^,,, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Andy Wenk > > > > > > Hamburg - Germany > > > > > > RockIt! > > > > > > > > > > > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 > 9588 > > > > > > > > > > > > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --=20 *C-tin* Angheloiu *deals with design magic* mobile: +4 0728.956.111 email: constantin.angheloiu@thewizards.ro find us: www.thewizards.ro facebook.com/TheWizardsRo; twitter.com/TheWizardsRo --f46d0442847aaf721e051461ae21--