Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E28EF18491 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6873 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2015 08:01:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 6833 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2015 08:01:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 6820 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2015 08:01:44 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:01:44 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: message received from 54.164.171.186 which is an MX secondary for marketing@couchdb.apache.org) Received: from [54.164.171.186] (HELO mx1-us-east.apache.org) (54.164.171.186) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:01:40 +0000 Received: from mail-qk0-f172.google.com (mail-qk0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 720F643E50 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qkhg7 with SMTP id g7so5884977qkh.2 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 01:00:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=9zNjne7UslNWrgztf0k74N/LWFVdbVZR1CxFMLTHiJw=; b=PTBVricgYGuNR/w/94SxtamG+n50m2TMFJtPDQTAcAUHqua9u8axQziLcKy9otu1xy tWNRlvKJy+HC4qac08+NBCe5VD3UKohbwGaKYoQwieAfOFn1P/4+O+QocWoeQ/4jDFPp jgi9BTwa1hMtH3bFEIl+s+qZtmpnJObC6S4RNcml6pMnjzeQ5Z1PHJqMCSAn8Pu1qk1D VV2Y/7Q4rC88KR92jQY/XhfSc7Tlkas0qG7lMuRhilokcxHy87nBzWZCuyg+mhWtEs3p ElS3pU83sxNRdn71DUhHLTMl6wXG7lSc41PxNxepxjD2A+UxDOue8CJ6ffqT9nmwG+9k IhGA== X-Received: by 10.140.192.83 with SMTP id n80mr1734990qha.1.1429776033735; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 01:00:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4048171.69.1429754586639.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> In-Reply-To: From: Nick North Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:00:33 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Proposed logo revision proposal To: marketing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11417ea89969b905145fac27 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11417ea89969b905145fac27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One person's slight correction is another's significant change. I consider the sofa arms and the font and colour changes to be significant. Nick On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 at 08:49 ermouth wrote: > > if someone wanted a variant on that, it would have been better to > have proposed it at the voting stage and not afterwards > > Something terrible gonna happen if someone tries to correct quite untidy > logo? If someone made slight corrections 21 of April, not 19 of April =E2= =80=93 > what happens? > > You need good, reproducable logo, right? Now proposed version is at least > technically weak and definitely need minor corrections. There is no > breaking any rules in cleaning what is untidy. You need result, don=E2=80= =98t be so > stubborn with rules. > > And, by the way, tweaked version proposed by Mr. Young is weaker than > original =E2=80=93 so it was good idea to hire professional graphic desig= ner to > ...mmm... brush sofa a little. > > Low hanging fruits: > * randomness of gaps is inconsistent, gaps widths must be unified to avo= id > weird effects on low-res devices > * width and height of other elts better be multiples of a gap width =E2= =80=93 same > reason > * internal roundings better be tuned to eliminate effect of aggressive > visual field =E2=80=93 now I definitely see one > > > > ermouth > > 2015-04-23 10:17 GMT+03:00 Nick North : > > > +1 to Jason and Andy's emails. Designing this sort of thing by everyone > > making tweaks seldom leads to a good outcome. And we voted for > Constantin's > > design; if someone wanted a variant on that, it would have been better = to > > have proposed it at the voting stage and not afterwards. > > > > Nick > > > > On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 at 07:50 Andy Wenk wrote: > > > > > +1 what Json said. > > > > > > I like the logo as it was created by Constantin. The font type is fre= sh > > and > > > imho there is no need to combine the old with the new one. The color = of > > the > > > word relax is changeable from situation to situation. So it can be gr= ey > > or > > > red. > > > > > > The email address of Constantin is constantin.angheloiu@thewizards.ro > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > On 23 April 2015 at 05:31, Jason Smith > wrote: > > > > > > > I certainly will not veto or hold up any decision. But my preferenc= e > > (and > > > > advice) is: use it as-is. Keep the singular vision from a single > > > designer. > > > > (I thought that was one objective of this process.) We committee > > members > > > > each have tweaks we might make, so that checks all of the boxes for= a > > > > bike-shed. > > > > > > > > Let's just go with it. It's great. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Joan Touzet > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > While we're doing our $0.02, I like the armrests on Constantin's > > > > > more than your rework. > > > > > > > > > > The text is fine, but I'd love to see someone whose job is graphi= c > > > > > design take a stab at it. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Alexander Shorin" > > > > > > To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org > > > > > > Cc: constantin@thewizards.ro > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:04:46 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Proposed logo revision proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Benjamin Young > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Here's the comparison of the three logos (old, Constantin's, > and > > my > > > > > > > tweaked variation) plus some minimal explanation: > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/poe12ktf8c05h5m/comparison.svg?dl= =3D0 > > > > > > > > > > > > You changes looks good for me. But you need to centrify Apache > work > > > > > > between C and H, and make relax not get far away from DB > > boundaries. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ,,,^..^,,, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Andy Wenk > > > > Hamburg - Germany > > > > RockIt! > > > > > > > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > > > > > > > > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --001a11417ea89969b905145fac27--