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From ermouth <ermo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Proposed logo revision proposal
Date Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:38:00 GMT
> I consider the sofa arms and the font and colour changes to be
significant.

More important they produced result that is much weaker than original.

And another low hanging fruits to correct in original:
 * joints of straight lines and curves are cusp (!) – and they definitely
must be smooth;
 * there are too many unnecessery points on curves.


ermouth

2015-04-23 11:00 GMT+03:00 Nick North <north.n@gmail.com>:

> One person's slight correction is another's significant change. I consider
> the sofa arms and the font and colour changes to be significant.
>
> Nick
>
> On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 at 08:49 ermouth <ermouth@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > if someone wanted a variant on that, it would have been better to
> > have proposed it at the voting stage and not afterwards
> >
> > Something terrible gonna happen if someone tries to correct quite untidy
> > logo? If someone made slight corrections 21 of April, not 19 of April –
> > what happens?
> >
> > You need good, reproducable logo, right? Now proposed version is at least
> > technically weak and definitely need minor corrections. There is no
> > breaking any rules in cleaning what is untidy. You need result, don‘t be
> so
> > stubborn with rules.
> >
> > And, by the way, tweaked version proposed by Mr. Young is weaker than
> > original – so it was good idea to hire professional graphic designer to
> > ...mmm... brush sofa a little.
> >
> > Low hanging fruits:
> >  * randomness of gaps is inconsistent, gaps widths must be unified to
> avoid
> > weird effects on low-res devices
> >  * width and height of other elts better be multiples of a gap width –
> same
> > reason
> >  * internal roundings better be tuned to eliminate effect of aggressive
> > visual field – now I definitely see one
> >
> >
> >
> > ermouth
> >
> > 2015-04-23 10:17 GMT+03:00 Nick North <north.n@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > +1 to Jason and Andy's emails. Designing this sort of thing by everyone
> > > making tweaks seldom leads to a good outcome. And we voted for
> > Constantin's
> > > design; if someone wanted a variant on that, it would have been better
> to
> > > have proposed it at the voting stage and not afterwards.
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 at 07:50 Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 what Json said.
> > > >
> > > > I like the logo as it was created by Constantin. The font type is
> fresh
> > > and
> > > > imho there is no need to combine the old with the new one. The color
> of
> > > the
> > > > word relax is changeable from situation to situation. So it can be
> grey
> > > or
> > > > red.
> > > >
> > > > The email address of Constantin is
> constantin.angheloiu@thewizards.ro
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > On 23 April 2015 at 05:31, Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I certainly will not veto or hold up any decision. But my
> preference
> > > (and
> > > > > advice) is: use it as-is. Keep the singular vision from a single
> > > > designer.
> > > > > (I thought that was one objective of this process.) We committee
> > > members
> > > > > each have tweaks we might make, so that checks all of the boxes
> for a
> > > > > bike-shed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's just go with it. It's great.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Joan Touzet <wohali@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > While we're doing our $0.02, I like the armrests on Constantin's
> > > > > > more than your rework.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The text is fine, but I'd love to see someone whose job is
> graphic
> > > > > > design take a stab at it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Alexander Shorin" <kxepal@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org
> > > > > > > Cc: constantin@thewizards.ro
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:04:46 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Proposed logo revision proposal
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Benjamin Young
> > > > > > > <byoung@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Here's the comparison of the three logos (old, Constantin's,
> > and
> > > my
> > > > > > > > tweaked variation) plus some minimal explanation:
> > > > > > > >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/poe12ktf8c05h5m/comparison.svg?dl=0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You changes looks good for me. But you need to centrify
Apache
> > work
> > > > > > > between C and H, and make relax not get far away from DB
> > > boundaries.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > ,,,^..^,,,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andy Wenk
> > > > > Hamburg - Germany
> > > > > RockIt!
> > > > >
> > > > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> > > > >
> > > > >  https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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