Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D08C21087B for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 14:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35436 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2014 14:00:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 35392 invoked by uid 500); 9 Nov 2014 14:00:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 35375 invoked by uid 99); 9 Nov 2014 14:00:07 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:00:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,URIBL_RHS_DOB X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of linicks@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.181] (HELO mail-qc0-f181.google.com) (209.85.216.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:00:03 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id w7so4547688qcr.40 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:58:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=0gQ2N1wtH/KEBCNyar6WAENHmSgD1A4pXylwPUE8b94=; b=h8IcBvduwUag2lmNUqgtXqdT5qSOxjCNgvtZcvjXyrG+yPfaRBXbshhXzYaAI5uxHt hbNk2G4/XjYtM5jngzOMg47nzM45byC7plC2b38/CMy4uduGwV2HLpl4U1QZMqEPkyKE /dYev6My+tXf5iC3GMwaha0ue3RsJWjauMlX8pxNU2CrHt6xTVMjocgp6HlmQL2iY1Bj PVRHioZ/HE/FaMjLRL22u1bppXqAKNmDiMbEgLjYlh6Tdj4hNWnqwO5jegRyeBsKnutF o7GTVhHiellnyw1qZhzAYp/EbBUdzDpAv3CK9XYXGDhGu3ZfykPP7+KJ1UOFm+gRuNG9 NOgg== X-Received: by 10.140.51.99 with SMTP id t90mr33890036qga.72.1415541537456; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:58:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <16281379.396.1415471077560.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> From: Nick Pavlica Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:58:56 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New motto? To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11351efa8149b305076d7294 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11351efa8149b305076d7294 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, "CouchDB - With Barriers" was supposed to be "CouchDB - Without Barriers". On Sun Nov 09 2014 at 6:37:47 AM Nick Pavlica wrote: > All, > > When reading this portion of Johs message a particular phrase stuck out: > > " CouchDB break the sound barrier and reach the big audience." > > In my opinion, the idea that CouchDB "breaks barriers" evokes a positive > emotion, and subtly describes some of the unique attributes CouchDB. A > motto based around it may be worth exploring. > > Examples: > CouchDB - Breaks Barriers > CouchDB - Breaking Barriers > CouchDB - With Barriers > ---- Others ----- > > Regards! > -- Nick Pavlica > > > > On Sun Nov 09 2014 at 12:29:30 AM Johs Ensby wrote: > >> Joan and Noah, >> thanks for straightening out the =E2=80=9Cone word slogan=E2=80=9D issue= for me. >> >> And thanks for the video, it=E2=80=99s a great one! >> Simon Sinek also makes a good introduction to Jeff Moore=E2=80=99s over = 20 year >> old book which is still the bible of hightech marketing. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm >> That book BTW has a recipe for doing an elevator pitch that I have used = a >> lot. >> >> If the chase for the motto fails, I would recommend an attempt to make a= n >> elevator pitch according to Moore=E2=80=99s recipe. >> >> I support very much the visionary =E2=80=9Cwhy=E2=80=9D with an emotiona= l rather than >> rational appeal. >> The message content and how it APPEALS to the target group is the clue. >> >> Defining the target group might help. There are many target groups that >> don=E2=80=99t find the same things appealing. >> Just imaging communicating to >> the head of technology in a huge corporation >> the teenage web developer that is on the brink of mastering html5 is >> looking for an all-in-one platform >> the mid-career IT professional trying to make some choices on what to >> invest time in to secure an interesting job for the next 10 years >> the entrepreneur that just got great support for a prototype and wants t= o >> conquer the world, now that he/she has the funding for it >> >> I deliberately omitted the CouchDB enthusiasts, since they are onboard >> anyway, their only concern is that CouchDB break the sound barrier and >> reach the big audience. >> >> Should we try to define a =E2=80=9Cpersona=E2=80=9D that could represent= the audience >> that we need to get onboard the CouchDB movement to =E2=80=9Ccross the c= hasm=E2=80=9D? >> I would think that what is lacking is a steady stream of success cases >> where the unique strength of easy replication is demonstrated. >> Who are the people that would make CouchDB acceptable to the early >> majority? >> >> Johs >> >> > On 08 Nov 2014, at 19:24, Joan Touzet wrote: >> > >> > Just to state that I'm not proposing "liberate" and that I don't >> > have any solid proposals to provide. I think Johs responded to me >> > when he meant to respond to Noah. :) >> > >> > I don't have any particularly strong feelings one way or another. >> > I do feel a responsibility to provide references to historical and >> > sociological context of terms we're considering, however, and will >> > strive to fill in the gaps where I see them. >> > >> > -Joan >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Noah Slater" >> > To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org >> > Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:33:07 PM >> > Subject: Re: New motto? >> > >> > I don't think we need a one word slogan. Not sure if anybody actually >> > suggested that. >> > >> > I also don't think "Freedom" or "Liberty" should be the words we use. >> > I very specifically thought that "liberate" was the word we ought to >> > use because it describes what Couch lets you do. It lets you liberate >> > your data. That can mean so many things, from being able to filter it >> > and transform it, through to being able to move it between locations, >> > and keep everything in sync. >> > >> > Note. I don't think our slogan should just be "Liberate". But that our >> > slogan could be something like "CouchDB. Liberate your data." The key >> > here is that we're describing what you'll be able to do with your data >> > by using our sync protocol. >> > >> > Please watch this video on "Start With Why" by Simon Sinek: >> > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsioZd3AxmnE >> > >> > It will help you understand why I think we have to reach higher than >> > sync/replication. We need to communicate WHY we're building a sync >> > protocol. Like, why is it even important? Why are we all here? >> > >> > If we can communicate that, our brand and our messaging will be so >> > much more powerful. We'll attract people EMOTIONALLY. People who feel >> > like they belong because they share our goals/values. >> > >> > Why is the sync protocol important to you? (Yes you, reading this >> > email.) What's the VALUE? What motivates you to contribute to CouchDB >> > by participating on this list? What does the sync protocol get you? >> > What is it enabling for you? >> > >> > Open invitation to answer this... >> > >> > On 8 November 2014 06:39, Johs Ensby wrote: >> >> Joan, >> >> =E2=80=9CLiberate=E2=80=9D has the right mixture of connotations and = meanings for most >> of us, I guess, but related to CouchDB, no, it=E2=80=99s so grand that i= t won=E2=80=99t >> stick. >> >> Imagine a car manufacturer calling their new model =E2=80=9CLiberate= =E2=80=9D or >> =E2=80=9CLiberation=E2=80=9D. Or the creator of a new parfume. Or a a po= litical campaign. >> >> It would work, but the word is just to grand and important to most >> people to associate with a car, parfume, political candidate or a databa= se. >> >> This is reaching faaaar to high. You will just borrow a small piece o= f >> the words mental space in people=E2=80=99s heads and have to explain it = again and >> again. >> >> >> >> I have seen presentations where =E2=80=9CRelax=E2=80=9D is used very = effectively to >> explain CouchDB benefits. >> >> The logo (which is brilliant, who created that??) says =E2=80=9CRelax= =E2=80=9D. >> >> This is the part of CouchDB communications that is working really, >> really well. >> >> >> >> It is almost impossible to find a one-word slogan, you need to make a >> phrase to give it a uniqueness. However CouchDB, with the logo + =E2=80= =9CRelax=E2=80=9D >> has built a cool message in a stressful world of too many busy bodies >> trying to oversell theirs stuff. >> >> >> >> My advice is: >> >> Call it a day and be happy that the chase for a new slogan verified >> that it is very hard to find something that works better for CouchDB the= n >> =E2=80=9CRelax=E2=80=9D. >> >> Johs:) >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 07 Nov 2014, at 16:56, Noah Slater wrote: >> >>> >> >>> What do others thing about using this word? "Liberate"? I think it h= as >> >>> the right mixture of connotations and meanings >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Noah Slater >> > https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> --001a11351efa8149b305076d7294--