Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29F5F10D11 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54845 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jun 2014 17:24:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 54810 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jun 2014 17:24:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 54793 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jun 2014 17:24:02 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:24:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-qc0-f171.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username andywenk, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:24:01 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id w7so2021830qcr.16 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.224.130.201 with SMTP id u9mr13817728qas.98.1403717040563; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: andywenk@apache.org Received: by 10.229.210.72 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:23:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <38866EA3-1B22-4F46-9452-F5A900CF178A@thehoodiefirm.com> <6CE7D225-E0DC-49E2-828A-2D52F8DB0008@thehoodiefirm.com> <86E617E8-9544-4683-9F0E-FBC9898C96EE@apache.org> <22AB258B-BB71-47CD-8CB9-D6F44B50BABB@apache.org> <35A7E3AA-F9DC-46A1-A65D-AF1A87C8B489@thehoodiefirm.com> <71E2E044-DF57-4AFF-A8AC-568464039F7B@thehoodiefirm.com> <075F7AB8-BADC-4BAD-AEED-65951D48ED1C@apache.org> <0167BD10-6791-4386-92E6-D04C5A5A2DB5@thehoodiefirm.com> <99CE2790-796D-45B6-829E-B9C318E19F6E@apache.org> <7EB5F5D1-FFC3-48F0-9207-36C93E0AF430@thehoodiefirm.com> <40F1E681-D45C-4877-9D97-C1924C94ED7D@apache.org> From: Andy Wenk Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:23:30 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NEWS] This weeks's CouchDB News are ready for feedback To: Lena Reinhard Cc: "marketing@couchdb.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d860f916b5704fcac5787 --047d7b5d860f916b5704fcac5787 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lena, awesome - and good design decision - he he :) I found one thing we should / could change: http://blog.couchdb.org/about/ Can we ad basic info about CouchDB here? Although I love the photo of Jan :) Regarding data migration. Dave, Alex, are you in? If we organise the process, I will also help. Regarding notification devs: yes - we should first announce it on dev@ Thanks a lot Lena! Cheers Andy On 25 June 2014 18:57, Lena Reinhard wrote: > thank you! design decision: done :) > blog.couchdb.org > > If you're not opposed, I'd suggest: I'd just post last Week's News so you > can see the design, and we don't do marketing for them, =E2=80=93 we'll a= lready > have new ones tomorrow anyway :) > > so, for the checklist: > # to dos > - data migration > - notify dev@ (if possible and ideally before we do marketing around the > next release of the Weekly News?) > - update main website to link to new blog > - eventually post on the old blog that we have a new blog > - post last Week's News - can do that > > # done > - access + accounts > - new design, logo, tagline > - add existing categories > > Thanks to everyone who helped so far! > > > On 25.06.2014, at 18:08, Andy Wenk wrote: > > > On 25 June 2014 18:03, Noah Slater wrote: > > > >> Lena, I'd say just go with whatever you think looks best. Design is > >> often best left to a single person. :) > >> > > > > +1 :) > > > > > >> > >> On 25 June 2014 17:57, Andy Wenk wrote: > >>> +2 for http://publishdemo.wordpress.com/ > >>> +1 for http://trulyminimaldemo.wordpress.com/ > >>> -0 for the rest > >>> > >>> But we will have the CouchDB Logo will we :) > >>> > >>> Thanks Lena > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Andy > >>> > >>> > >>> On 25 June 2014 17:42, Lena Reinhard wrote: > >>> > >>>> I'd suggest keeping things as simple as possible for now. If we find= a > >>>> designer who'd want to create a nice design, we could still do a > >> relaunch. > >>>> > >>>> Thus, I'd suggest just using one of the free WP themes. > >>>> I have already taken a closer look at available Wordpress themes, > there > >>>> would be e.g.: > >>>> http://trulyminimaldemo.wordpress.com/ > >>>> http://publishdemo.wordpress.com/ > >>>> http://en.wordpress.com/themes/syntax/ > >>>> http://tonaldemo.wordpress.com/ > >>>> More themes are here: http://en.wordpress.com/themes/type/free/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 25.06.2014, at 12:35, Andy Wenk wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> any idea who's going to create a simple but nice design for the new > >>>> blog? I > >>>>> do not have the skills to do that ... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 24 June 2014 21:15, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 16:39 , Lena Reinhard > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> d'oh. Updated. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> so, as far as I got it, next steps would be: > >>>>>>> 1) data migration =E2=80=93 Jan and Alexander, could you handle t= hat? > >>>>>>> 2) granting access (=3D creating accounts, preferrably admin > >> accounts, if > >>>>>> no one is opposed; accounts needed for: > >>>>>>> - Noah > >>>>>>> - Alexander (see step 1) > >>>>>>> - Lena > >>>>>>> - =E2=80=A6 ? > >>>>>>> 3) updating design (include new header + tagline) > >>>>>>> 4) notifying dev@ about the change > >>>>>>> 5) posting last week's weekly news ;) (can do that as soon as I g= ot > >>>>>> access) > >>>>>>> 6) post promotion > >>>>>>> 7) check if categories are correct; we should also keep in mind t= o > >> tag > >>>>>> at least new posts correctly > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 8) Update the main website to link to the new blog. > >>>>>> 9) eventually post on the old blog that we have a new blog :) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Anything else? :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 24.06.2014, at 16:38, Lena Reinhard > >> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> so, as far as I got it, next steps would be: > >>>>>>>> 1) data migration =E2=80=93 Jan and Alexander, could you handle = that? > >>>>>>>> 2) granting access (=3D creating accounts, preferrably admin > >> accounts, > >>>> if > >>>>>> no one is opposed; accounts needed for: > >>>>>>>> - Noah > >>>>>>>> - Alexander (see step 1) > >>>>>>>> - Lena > >>>>>>>> - =E2=80=A6 ? > >>>>>>>> 3) notifying dev@ about the change > >>>>>>>> 4) posting last week's weekly news ;) (can do that as soon as I > got > >>>>>> access) > >>>>>>>> 5) post promotion > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Anything else? :) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 24.06.2014, at 15:45, Noah Slater wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> +1 on supporting Lena's choice: WordPress. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> As the other major blogger on this project, WP is also my > >> preference. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 24 June 2014 13:58, Andy Wenk wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> I am perfectly fine with WP also. Bonus points for being able = to > >> use > >>>>>>>>>> Markdown. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for laying out your opinions. I think we can keep that > >> short > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> move on with using WP? I hope Dave is not too disappointed :) > ... > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 24 June 2014 12:24, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 12:20 , Lena Reinhard < > >> lena@thehoodiefirm.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave, as you know I did some work with Hugo in the Swirl > >> project. > >>>>>> My > >>>>>>>>>>> blog > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on the other hand is now created with jekyll. I have to > admit, > >>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> jekyll > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is way easier to use and is also based on git ( > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/andywenk/andywenk.github.io). So my > >>>> conclusion > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hugo is great for usage as a documentation tool and jekyll > >> fits > >>>>>> better > >>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a blog. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, the software on blog.couchdb.org is > >> already a > >>>>>> WP. > >>>>>>>>>>> So do > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we need to change that? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Although I heard Jekyll and Hugo are nice, I'd say: > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Community management hat: I'd love to choose a tool that > >> keeps > >>>>>> entry > >>>>>>>>>>> barriers low, also for future committers. I know that many > >>>> marketing > >>>>>> people > >>>>>>>>>>> are used to WP and I'd definitely love to get more non-coding > >>>>>> committers on > >>>>>>>>>>> board and reduce dependencies. It's bad for devs if marketing > >>>> people > >>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>>>> to ask for help frequently, also regarding lack of focus, and > >> can > >>>>>> tend to > >>>>>>>>>>> be frustrating for marketing people, too. And the more we can > >>>> reduce > >>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>> from the beginning, the better for the community. > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Personal hat: happy with anything, but used to WP :)) > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Marketing hat: whatever makes migration easiest. Plus: WP > >> could > >>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>> good as it's already there, and makes administration etc. eas= y. > >>>>>> Also: tools > >>>>>>>>>>> preferred that enable independence. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And who wants to do the data migration? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can do it, I like tedious repetitive tasks that can be > done > >>>>>> whenever > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few spare minutes appear. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> he he :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to revert the current > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTML versions into markdown via pandoc without too much > pain. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> oh yes - I was wondering how we can manage that and pandoc > >> should > >>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> When using pandoc in the way Dave proposed, it is maybe a > good > >>>>>> idea to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> rethink WP but I have to admit that I don't know with what > >> format > >>>>>> one > >>>>>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>>>>>> feed WP for content. Maybe also Markdown? > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> WP can't be fed with Markdown yet, unfortunately. > >>>>>> WYSIWYG-editor-only. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> In fact, since this is hosted on wordpress.com, Markdown is > >>>>>> supported :) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Best > >>>>>>>>>>> Jan > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Else: what Jan says :) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A+ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]: http://hugo.spf13.com/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]: http://octopress.org/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]: http://jekyllrb.com/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Wenk > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany > >>>>>>>>>>>>> RockIt! > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9E= D3 > >>>> 9588 > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Andy Wenk > >>>>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany > >>>>>>>>>> RockIt! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 > >> 9588 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Noah Slater > >>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Andy Wenk > >>>>> Hamburg - Germany > >>>>> RockIt! > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de > >>>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de > >>>>> > >>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > >>>>> > >>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Andy Wenk > >>> Hamburg - Germany > >>> RockIt! > >>> > >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > >>> > >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Noah Slater > >> https://twitter.com/nslater > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Andy Wenk > > Hamburg - Germany > > RockIt! > > > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > > > > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > > --=20 Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt! 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