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From Lena Reinhard <l...@thehoodiefirm.com>
Subject Re: [NEWS] This weeks's CouchDB News are ready for feedback
Date Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:46:51 GMT
On 25.06.2014, at 19:23, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:

> Lena,
> 
> awesome - and good design decision - he he :)
haha :D and thank you :)

> 
> I found one thing we should / could change:
> 
> http://blog.couchdb.org/about/
> 
> Can we ad basic info about CouchDB here? Although I love the photo of Jan
> :)

For the start, I just copy-pasted the "about" info on CouchDB's website (so Jan's photo is
out, sorry for that :) ). But would not be opposed to seeing this rewritten one day (it's
just a "page" in the WP dashboard which can be edited by anyone with access).

> 
> Regarding data migration. Dave, Alex, are you in? If we organise the
> process, I will also help.
> 
> Regarding notification devs: yes - we should first announce it on dev@
> 
> Thanks a lot Lena!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 25 June 2014 18:57, Lena Reinhard <lena@thehoodiefirm.com> wrote:
> 
>> thank you! design decision: done :)
>> blog.couchdb.org
>> 
>> If you're not opposed, I'd suggest: I'd just post last Week's News so you
>> can see the design, and we don't do marketing for them, – we'll already
>> have new ones tomorrow anyway :)
>> 
>> so, for the checklist:
>> # to dos
>> - data migration
>> - notify dev@ (if possible and ideally before we do marketing around the
>> next release of the Weekly News?)
>> - update main website to link to new blog
>> - eventually post on the old blog that we have a new blog
>> - post last Week's News - can do that
>> 
>> # done
>> - access + accounts
>> - new design, logo, tagline
>> - add existing categories
>> 
>> Thanks to everyone who helped so far!
>> 
>> 
>> On 25.06.2014, at 18:08, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 25 June 2014 18:03, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Lena, I'd say just go with whatever you think looks best. Design is
>>>> often best left to a single person. :)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> +1 :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 25 June 2014 17:57, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> +2 for http://publishdemo.wordpress.com/
>>>>> +1 for http://trulyminimaldemo.wordpress.com/
>>>>> -0 for the rest
>>>>> 
>>>>> But we will have the CouchDB Logo will we :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Lena
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 June 2014 17:42, Lena Reinhard <lena@thehoodiefirm.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd suggest keeping things as simple as possible for now. If we find
a
>>>>>> designer who'd want to create a nice design, we could still do a
>>>> relaunch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thus, I'd suggest just using one of the free WP themes.
>>>>>> I have already taken a closer look at available Wordpress themes,
>> there
>>>>>> would be e.g.:
>>>>>> http://trulyminimaldemo.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> http://publishdemo.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> http://en.wordpress.com/themes/syntax/
>>>>>> http://tonaldemo.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> More themes are here: http://en.wordpress.com/themes/type/free/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25.06.2014, at 12:35, Andy Wenk <andy@nms.de> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> any idea who's going to create a simple but nice design for the
new
>>>>>> blog? I
>>>>>>> do not have the skills to do that ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 24 June 2014 21:15, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 16:39 , Lena Reinhard <lena@thehoodiefirm.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> d'oh. Updated.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> so, as far as I got it, next steps would be:
>>>>>>>>> 1) data migration – Jan and Alexander, could you handle
that?
>>>>>>>>> 2) granting access (= creating accounts, preferrably
admin
>>>> accounts, if
>>>>>>>> no one is opposed; accounts needed for:
>>>>>>>>>    - Noah
>>>>>>>>>    - Alexander (see step 1)
>>>>>>>>>    - Lena
>>>>>>>>>    - … ?
>>>>>>>>> 3) updating design (include new header + tagline)
>>>>>>>>> 4) notifying dev@ about the change
>>>>>>>>> 5) posting last week's weekly news ;) (can do that as
soon as I got
>>>>>>>> access)
>>>>>>>>> 6) post promotion
>>>>>>>>> 7) check if categories are correct; we should also keep
in mind to
>>>> tag
>>>>>>>> at least new posts correctly
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 8) Update the main website to link to the new blog.
>>>>>>>> 9) eventually post on the old blog that we have a new blog
:)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anything else? :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 24.06.2014, at 16:38, Lena Reinhard <lena@thehoodiefirm.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> so, as far as I got it, next steps would be:
>>>>>>>>>> 1) data migration – Jan and Alexander, could you
handle that?
>>>>>>>>>> 2) granting access (= creating accounts, preferrably
admin
>>>> accounts,
>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> no one is opposed; accounts needed for:
>>>>>>>>>>   - Noah
>>>>>>>>>>   - Alexander (see step 1)
>>>>>>>>>>   - Lena
>>>>>>>>>>   - … ?
>>>>>>>>>> 3) notifying dev@ about the change
>>>>>>>>>> 4) posting last week's weekly news ;) (can do that
as soon as I
>> got
>>>>>>>> access)
>>>>>>>>>> 5) post promotion
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Anything else? :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 24.06.2014, at 15:45, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on supporting Lena's choice: WordPress.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> As the other major blogger on this project, WP
is also my
>>>> preference.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 June 2014 13:58, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am perfectly fine with WP also. Bonus points
for being able to
>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>> Markdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for laying out your opinions. I think
we can keep that
>>>> short
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> move on with using WP? I hope Dave is not
too disappointed :)
>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 June 2014 12:24, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Jun 2014, at 12:20 , Lena Reinhard
<
>>>> lena@thehoodiefirm.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave, as you know I did some
work with Hugo in the Swirl
>>>> project.
>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the other hand is now created
with jekyll. I have to
>> admit,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jekyll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is way easier to use and is also
based on git (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/andywenk/andywenk.github.io).
So my
>>>>>> conclusion
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hugo is great for usage as a
documentation tool and jekyll
>>>> fits
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a blog.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, the software
on blog.couchdb.org is
>>>> already a
>>>>>>>> WP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we need to change that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Although I heard Jekyll and Hugo
are nice, I'd say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Community management hat: I'd love
to choose a tool that
>>>> keeps
>>>>>>>> entry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> barriers low, also for future committers.
I know that many
>>>>>> marketing
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are used to WP and I'd definitely love
to get more non-coding
>>>>>>>> committers on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> board and reduce dependencies. It's bad
for devs if marketing
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ask for help frequently, also regarding
lack of focus, and
>>>> can
>>>>>>>> tend to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be frustrating for marketing people,
too. And the more we can
>>>>>> reduce
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the beginning, the better for the
community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Personal hat: happy with anything,
but used to WP :))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Marketing hat: whatever makes migration
easiest. Plus: WP
>>>> could
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> good as it's already there, and makes
administration etc. easy.
>>>>>>>> Also: tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>> preferred that enable independence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And who wants to do the
data migration?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can do it, I like tedious
repetitive tasks that can be
>> done
>>>>>>>> whenever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few spare minutes appear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he he :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to revert
the current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTML versions into markdown
via pandoc without too much
>> pain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oh yes - I was wondering how
we can manage that and pandoc
>>>> should
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When using pandoc in the way
Dave proposed, it is maybe a
>> good
>>>>>>>> idea to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rethink WP but I have to admit
that I don't know with what
>>>> format
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feed WP for content. Maybe also
Markdown?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WP can't be fed with Markdown yet,
unfortunately.
>>>>>>>> WYSIWYG-editor-only.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, since this is hosted on wordpress.com,
Markdown is
>>>>>>>> supported :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Else: what Jan says :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A+
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]: http://hugo.spf13.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]: http://octopress.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]: http://jekyllrb.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RockIt!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>>>>>>>>>> RockIt!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>> 9588
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>>>>> RockIt!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>>>>>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>>>>>>> 
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9588
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>>> RockIt!
>>>>> 
>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Andy Wenk
>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>> RockIt!
>>> 
>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>> 
>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Andy Wenk
> Hamburg - Germany
> RockIt!
> 
> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> 
> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc


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