Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87394200C3B for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 08:15:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 85D4D160B7F; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:15:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id CF01B160B71 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 08:15:10 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 85656 invoked by uid 500); 18 Mar 2017 07:15:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 85645 invoked by uid 99); 18 Mar 2017 07:15:04 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:15:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id CD4D8C0176 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:15:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.301 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZkjTMgdk49_g for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from monoceres.uberspace.de (monoceres.uberspace.de [95.143.172.184]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id D260B5F403 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29255 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2017 07:14:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?10.0.0.14?) (127.0.0.1) by monoceres.uberspace.de with SMTP; 18 Mar 2017 07:14:53 -0000 From: Jan Lehnardt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 08:14:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Drop PDF / texinfo documentation builds Message-Id: References: <3545194.713.1489812943690.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> In-Reply-To: <3545194.713.1489812943690.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (14D27) archived-at: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:15:11 -0000 +1 Cheers Jan -- > On 18 Mar 2017, at 05:55, Joan Touzet wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'd like to propose dropping the PDF and texinfo targets from our > documentation build, or at the very least, having them not be part of > the default target / not standard deliverables for the project. > > We'd continue to build HTML documentation as part of the workflow, > naturally, as well as the man pages. > > I don't have any solid numbers, but I'm fairly sure most people use > https://docs.couchdb.org/ or a locally installed copy for their > documentation for CouchDB rather than the PDF documentation. I > personally can't remember the last time I opened the docs in PDF form. I > also have never seen anyone refer to the PDF docs on the mailing lists, > IRC or Slack when asking for advice or support. > > I've also never seen anyone use or talk about the texinfo target, and > I've not used them myself. > > Dropping this dependency will allow us to drop TeX/LaTeX from our build > chain, which speeds up build times by about 90 seconds and reduces the > size of containers currently being built for our Jenkins CI workflow. > It also means CouchDB devs don't have to install 0.5-1.5GB worth of > toolset. > > I've captured this in JIRA as > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-3329 and have PRs ready > to fire off if people agree. > > Your thoughts? > > -Joan