Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C12200C3B for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 18:02:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id C8441160B7F; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 17:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F490160B7A for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 18:02:41 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 35519 invoked by uid 500); 18 Mar 2017 17:02:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 35500 invoked by uid 99); 18 Mar 2017 17:02:41 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 17:02:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 87C1B18063D for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 17:02:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.899 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2xZZUoPCveQP for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 17:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wr0-f177.google.com (mail-wr0-f177.google.com [209.85.128.177]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id AD4855F238 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-f177.google.com with SMTP id g10so68938026wrg.2 for ; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 10:02:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UHDdmP11vxPVfKWcfKHSBELOuNvYaZqwvm30+MYsWxQ=; b=kt+rt3aBnHWIbh1OacsK6w+xgmwM3Wq40LcX1icBgOvNfxSaGHJieQVJnop7bImayn ImWmr5znHLi5Ha9xeKG6jpf36R6jD1v1ZwaCXRPa+dB576z+8euV6Oo3ieSxghxhEQG3 SypplxY05zLod8oHApPNY8o4sLFxnO+f9LwuAUfWjAOKQU5OEhv01e7VO2QOnKmdNNND H4n7nJ/Onn8Z0BGjI66Sv4Pkb73kkIoHho3kt1k1uijubMhJN8YfU5ZgpwwEvcn90ZHH McFkkNIhHypgLSMPonaKwMJNWJzMldOcz43fmr9ok5lo8EMSPZaYdecJG1d1hOuQLkJy DHeg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=UHDdmP11vxPVfKWcfKHSBELOuNvYaZqwvm30+MYsWxQ=; b=IKUFNrAhrvk+3oB4X4A35EIjDAYz5jATba7sIZd7BZmiip8zdG9+trDsnZXQhgx5HE qm3nihKw/s1dlw5QN8WdA1xGaNApNNW8Ysk47YRF2iCC8MuLwiblsqMWnVRc3aPmB5E7 XFlrAvHotONZ6/ZwUCk/p9vlmWWzknpVZZgQdr+zPunEy2nwAI/ucvZcQsS3M+4ji5fe luVRST3WLMD09XKc2NxX5fEld1v7283pBC6UFcutrUCDtOAlTqXuEZ584cZ6rxbtofPX 4Px0c4XV5g1dUo/JVfXegJwpA6qlKWCC/CAyyc5uY39M7MTw2rOKMadJU8Pytm7aT5rc mBDg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3y9inw1/3Pur3ftBmQCj2WBVvefJJ1cW7/g/A76Wwu4JR3nYqiVfK+iQWuZxFlbIknc+yw/IofwHR3/A== X-Received: by 10.223.155.129 with SMTP id d1mr18014951wrc.67.1489856139969; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 09:55:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <747629.704.1489811427469.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> <3545194.713.1489812943690.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> In-Reply-To: From: Paul Davis Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 16:55:29 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Drop PDF / texinfo documentation builds To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c1b464efd4b90054b0429e4 archived-at: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 17:02:43 -0000 --94eb2c1b464efd4b90054b0429e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 8:15 AM Nick Vatamaniuc wrote: > +1 > > On Mar 18, 2017 12:56 AM, "Joan Touzet" wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'd like to propose dropping the PDF and texinfo targets from our > > documentation build, or at the very least, having them not be part of > > the default target / not standard deliverables for the project. > > > > We'd continue to build HTML documentation as part of the workflow, > > naturally, as well as the man pages. > > > > I don't have any solid numbers, but I'm fairly sure most people use > > https://docs.couchdb.org/ or a locally installed copy for their > > documentation for CouchDB rather than the PDF documentation. I > > personally can't remember the last time I opened the docs in PDF form. I > > also have never seen anyone refer to the PDF docs on the mailing lists, > > IRC or Slack when asking for advice or support. > > > > I've also never seen anyone use or talk about the texinfo target, and > > I've not used them myself. > > > > Dropping this dependency will allow us to drop TeX/LaTeX from our build > > chain, which speeds up build times by about 90 seconds and reduces the > > size of containers currently being built for our Jenkins CI workflow. > > It also means CouchDB devs don't have to install 0.5-1.5GB worth of > > toolset. > > > > I've captured this in JIRA as > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COUCHDB-3329 and have PRs ready > > to fire off if people agree. > > > > Your thoughts? > > > > -Joan > > > --94eb2c1b464efd4b90054b0429e4--