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From Michael Hall <>
Subject Re: CouchDB 2.0 as Snap
Date Mon, 19 Sep 2016 17:13:58 GMT
Maybe I'm using the wrong branch, because the Makefile has an "install"
target but not a "release" target. I'm using developer-preview-2.0, if
that's not the correct one, which should I use?

Michael Hall

On 09/19/2016 12:10 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> Heya, nice effort here :)
> CouchDB 2.0 doesn’t use autotools. It mimics them minimally, but only
> insofar as it is useful for CouchDB and not for tools that expect
> autotools-like behaviour.
> Over time, we want to make it so that the CouchDB install procedure
> fits right into normal tooling, but we are not there yet.
> Especially, `make install` is not available in 2.0. Instead, we
> have `make release` which produces a location independent directory
> `./rel/couchdb` that you can move into your system where you need it.
> There is no way to externalise log files or so from a setup perspective
> (although it can be configured in local.ini).
> Best
> Jan
> --
>> On 19 Sep 2016, at 17:48, Michael Hall <> wrote:
>> I have attached the snapcraft.yaml file I've started. This is used by
>> the snapcraft tool to build and package a .snap file (just run
>> `snapcraft snap` in the same directory as this file).
>> You can see that most of it is dedicated to grabbing the source,
>> specifying build dependencies (build-packages) and runtime dependencies
>> (stage-packages). The 'autotools' plugin will run the standard
>> "./configure; make; make install" steps on the source, and while the
>> output of those claims to be successful, make returns with a non-zero
>> status code ($?=2) which causes snapcraft to abort after building.
>> As mentioned previously, this could be significantly simplified if it
>> could use the build processes already in place. In that case the
>> snapcraft.yaml would only need to be pointed to the local directory
>> containing the binary files needed to include in the .snap package. If
>> somebody wants to give that a try, I can put together a new
>> snapcraft.yaml that will do that.
>> Michael Hall
>> On 09/19/2016 02:56 AM, Constantin Teodorescu wrote:
>>> It would be nice to have two snap packages:
>>> - CouchDB 2.0 UN-CLUSTERED
>>> That will encourage a lot of "standalone" CouchDB users to upgrade to a 2.0
>>> version without the clustering overload stuff, and thus make a big pool of
>>> 2.0 testers and bug-reporters!
>>> Teo
>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Michael Hall <> wrote:
>>>> First off, congratulations on the upcoming 2.0 release!
>>>> I would love to see this new version available as a Snap package for
>>>> users of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, since the archive version will be frozen on
>>>> 1.6.0 for the next 5 years of it's lifecycle.
>>>> Snaps are self-contained packages that include all of the dependencies
>>>> they need, which lets them run as you (the upstream) intended across new
>>>> releases of Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, and many other distros. They run in a
>>>> sandbox that protects them from changes made to the user's system, but
>>>> with a number of optional interfaces if you need deeper interaction or
>>>> to share data with other apps.
>>>> Every snap includes its own file tree, and is run on top of the same
>>>> base image regardless of distro or form factor. This keeps the
>>>> application's own files isolated from other apps and the host system, in
>>>> a read-only filesystem, which makes updating them safe and simple while
>>>> keeping you in control of the whole stack that your application runs on.
>>>> The snappy runtime then provides writable areas for storing both
>>>> versioned and unversioned data, as well as system-wide or per-user data.
>>>> We also provide a Snap Store, which combines the speed of
>>>> self-publishing with the discoverability of a central archive. It is
>>>> used by default across all Ubuntu 16.04 flavors and derivatives, and any
>>>> distro where snaps have been enabled. Thanks to Snap's confinement,
>>>> applications can be published immediately after uploading. This means
>>>> that your application and updates are available to tens of millions of
>>>> users as soon as you press the button.
>>>> I started the work on producing a Snap package for Couchdb 2.0, but as I
>>>> couldn't find a binary release I had to try building it from source and
>>>> unfortunately I was not successful on that step. I am happy to share my
>>>> packaging configuration with anybody here who knows the build process
>>>> better than me, but it would be even simpler to create the snap package
>>>> at the end of whatever process you already have to build binary
>>>> releases. I am happy to help with either or both approaches, and you can
>>>> also learn more about the snap format and tools here:
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Hall
>> <snapcraft.yaml>

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