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From Alexander Shorin <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] CouchApp Work Group
Date Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:33:07 GMT
Good news that there are no bad news (:

Since noone objects, will proceed with following plan.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Alexander Shorin <> wrote:
> Hi everyone.
> Recently we had quite hot discussions around CouchApps feature: what
> the future it has, what the problems it has, what the plans people
> have on it and so on, but basically we have a lot of talks, but only.
> However, these discussions showed that we have quite enough people in
> our community who loves that feature, who wishes it to become better
> and who wanted to make it better.
> While CouchDB Team has no enough resources to completely support this
> feature and improve it, I propose to create CouchApp Work Group (CAWG)
> which will be organized by active CouchApp activists and people who
> would like to work on it and provide support of any kind that can.
> === What CAWG will do?
> - Restore good name of CouchApp and website;
> - Search for solutions of technical and ideological issues;
> - Provide informational and technical support;
> - Involve more people into CouchDB ecosystem;
> - Provide feedback to CouchDB dev team for the existed features that
> CouchApps counts vital, proposals and, I wish, pull requests for new
> features and improvements;
> As was previously wisely noticed, CouchApp is a metafeature that based
> on top of CouchDB, but it tightly coupled with CouchDB and we cannot
> ignore it existence nor try to bury history of our project.
> === How CAWG will interact with core devs?
> There were asked some concerns that CouchDB devs cannot maintains
> CouchApp related requests now, work on new features and so on, and so
> on, so all the new feature requests discussion almost always ended
> with the same resolution.
> Accounting past experience, I propose the following format: CAWG works
> on it own without disturbing core developers by ideas, requests and
> what else.
> All feature requests are forms as good proposals on CWiki or ML with
> rationale part. If CWAG could generate pull requests with features
> implementations and bug fixes - that is the best case of our
> cooperation.
> === Who the tools CAWG will use?
> - New ML for discussion, support, etc.
> - CWiki for designing proposals, ideas, documenting workflow etc.
> - JIRA with CouchApp component to track issues and work on them
> - website as main informational base. I guess, we'll be
> need in git repository to manage it content on the first steps, unless
> there are other alternatives.
> === Who are all these peoples?
> Everyone in CouchDB community who want to work on CouchApp feature.
> Keyword - work, because there are a lot of people here with a lot of
> ideas, but without implementing them nothing will get changed.
> So far I'd propose to promote these folks:
> - Ermouth
> - Giovanni Lenzi
> - Harald Kisch
> - Josh E.
> - Benjamin Young
> Anyone else?
> (Note, I know that some devs had not the best discussions with some of
> these people, but I would like if we can abstract from emotions of the
> past here, shake our hands and try to work together in the new format)
> My personal role here is to be a bridge: connect CAWG with CouchDB and
> provide help with Erlang bits and other project routines.
> === How this all means to CouchDB Future?
> Our last mottos and slogans were focused on that we're, basically,
> database for web that replicates. For now CouchApp feature is not in
> the best state to put it on the front of CouchDB marketing.
> If we can get CouchApps back to live and this will really work and
> involve more people into CouchDB project and ecosystem - we're all in
> win-win situation.
> Thoughts?
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,

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