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From Michelle Phung <michelleph...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] CouchApp Work Group
Date Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:35:28 GMT
:) i think its a really good idea! 

Michelle

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good news that there are no bad news (:
> 
> Since noone objects, will proceed with following plan.
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>> 
>> Recently we had quite hot discussions around CouchApps feature: what
>> the future it has, what the problems it has, what the plans people
>> have on it and so on, but basically we have a lot of talks, but only.
>> However, these discussions showed that we have quite enough people in
>> our community who loves that feature, who wishes it to become better
>> and who wanted to make it better.
>> 
>> While CouchDB Team has no enough resources to completely support this
>> feature and improve it, I propose to create CouchApp Work Group (CAWG)
>> which will be organized by active CouchApp activists and people who
>> would like to work on it and provide support of any kind that can.
>> 
>> 
>> === What CAWG will do?
>> 
>> - Restore good name of CouchApp and couchapp.org website;
>> - Search for solutions of technical and ideological issues;
>> - Provide informational and technical support;
>> - Involve more people into CouchDB ecosystem;
>> - Provide feedback to CouchDB dev team for the existed features that
>> CouchApps counts vital, proposals and, I wish, pull requests for new
>> features and improvements;
>> 
>> As was previously wisely noticed, CouchApp is a metafeature that based
>> on top of CouchDB, but it tightly coupled with CouchDB and we cannot
>> ignore it existence nor try to bury history of our project.
>> 
>> 
>> === How CAWG will interact with core devs?
>> 
>> There were asked some concerns that CouchDB devs cannot maintains
>> CouchApp related requests now, work on new features and so on, and so
>> on, so all the new feature requests discussion almost always ended
>> with the same resolution.
>> 
>> Accounting past experience, I propose the following format: CAWG works
>> on it own without disturbing core developers by ideas, requests and
>> what else.
>> 
>> All feature requests are forms as good proposals on CWiki or ML with
>> rationale part. If CWAG could generate pull requests with features
>> implementations and bug fixes - that is the best case of our
>> cooperation.
>> 
>> 
>> === Who the tools CAWG will use?
>> 
>> - New ML couchapp@couchdb.apache.org for discussion, support, etc.
>> - CWiki for designing proposals, ideas, documenting workflow etc.
>> - JIRA with CouchApp component to track issues and work on them
>> - couchapp.org website as main informational base. I guess, we'll be
>> need in git repository to manage it content on the first steps, unless
>> there are other alternatives.
>> 
>> 
>> === Who are all these peoples?
>> 
>> Everyone in CouchDB community who want to work on CouchApp feature.
>> Keyword - work, because there are a lot of people here with a lot of
>> ideas, but without implementing them nothing will get changed.
>> 
>> So far I'd propose to promote these folks:
>> - Ermouth
>> - Giovanni Lenzi
>> - Harald Kisch
>> - Josh E.
>> - Benjamin Young
>> 
>> Anyone else?
>> 
>> (Note, I know that some devs had not the best discussions with some of
>> these people, but I would like if we can abstract from emotions of the
>> past here, shake our hands and try to work together in the new format)
>> 
>> My personal role here is to be a bridge: connect CAWG with CouchDB and
>> provide help with Erlang bits and other project routines.
>> 
>> 
>> === How this all means to CouchDB Future?
>> 
>> Our last mottos and slogans were focused on that we're, basically,
>> database for web that replicates. For now CouchApp feature is not in
>> the best state to put it on the front of CouchDB marketing.
>> 
>> If we can get CouchApps back to live and this will really work and
>> involve more people into CouchDB project and ecosystem - we're all in
>> win-win situation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> ,,,^..^,,,

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