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From ermouth <ermo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Create an account for designers to contribute to CouchDB
Date Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:20:05 GMT
> I throw in another idea and do suggest to use Confluence at:
> * we do not have to set up anything - we can start NOW

Opened Confluence editor and played a little – and surprisingly I like this
idea. Moreover, seems it‘s very good match, far better than
longread-intended Medium or pre-alpha state Inliner.

ermouth

2015-09-16 13:10 GMT+03:00 Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org>:

> I throw in another idea and do suggest to use Confluence at:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Apache+CouchDB+Wiki
>
> * we have that already set up
> * it is run and supported by the ASF (INFRA)
> * everyone with an account can create pages
> * you can upload images easily
> * everyone with an account can comment
> * we do not have to set up anything - we can start NOW
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
> P.S.: @ermouth: I like Inliner,
> P.P.S:  personally, I don't like medium at all due to some bad experiences
> I made last week. The commenting does not support code and the UX is
> horrible (and faulty).
>
>
> On 16 September 2015 at 06:53, Johs Ensby <johs@b2w.com> wrote:
>
> > Michelle,
> > suggest Medium account with ...
> >
> > "Email notifications on your content
> > ( We’ll email you when there’s notifications on your stories and
> > publications.)"
> >
> > ... set to design@ to comply with ASF policy as per Alexander's concern
> >
> > Alexander,
> > I support you on encouraging ermouth suggestion to use Couch/Pouch based
> > Inliner app as bases for this.
> > Agree that is not crazy at all, on the contrary. I am using Inliner now
> > and it is a very good candidate to extend into Medium-like community app.
> > Integration with AFS mailing list would then be possible to customize for
> > "backward compatibility" while entering the area that arrived when social
> > media supplemented email).
> >
> > Medium, however has an excellent model for commenting that could be
> > improved on and seen as the pilot exercise for including designers in the
> > community.
> > (I presume Michelle's ambition is to attract a new group of contributors,
> > not only teach the non-desginers about design)
> >
> > johs
> >
> > >
> > > On 14. sep. 2015, at 17.41, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good morning, Michelle!
> > >
> > > That's really good idea to choose better platform for target audience
> > > which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment (:
> > >
> > > The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project
> > > discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using
> > > thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means
> > > don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML.
> > >
> > > Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, but +1
> > > such turn of events.
> > >
> > > --
> > > ,,,^..^,,,
> > >
> >
> > > On 14. sep. 2015, at 22.09, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Use CouchDB-based service to work on CouchDB....That's not much crazy,
> > > but win-win idea and ideal case (;
> > > In the end, designers would be able to shape this service in the way
> > > they prefer for the effective workflow.
> > >
> > > The only question is how much time/effort it would take to get it to
> > > the minimal usable state? And, since we stated talk about features,
> > > what are end users expectations and requirements for such service
> > > (minimal, good to have, sweet spot)?
> > >
> > > --
> > > ,,,^..^,,,
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:49 PM, ermouth <ermouth@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> more ideas?
> > >>
> > >> Michelle, you may say I‘m crazy, but... What if we:
> > >>
> > >>   - take this proto http://bit.ly/1iqHRt8 (works well in Chrome, FF,
> O)
> > >>   hosted on Cloudant,
> > >>   - improve it to usable state,
> > >>   - add comments,
> > >>   - add registration using social networks,
> > >>   - make it fly.
> > >>
> > >> We may even enforce comments to start with ‘Yes, and ’ – bit crazy
> idea,
> > >> but it could be interesting social experiment )
> > >>
> > >>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC
> > >>
> > >> CouchDB is extremely effective for MVVM architectures as well. Above
> > >> example and ddoc.me/lab are both MVVM.
> > >>
> > >> ermouth
> > >>
> > >> 2015-09-14 21:34 GMT+03:00 Michelle Phung <
> michelle@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> > >:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Eli,
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes, by design, I am meaning UI/UX/CHI/visual design.
> > >>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC. :)
> > >>>
> > >>> I was meaning initially to create a space for people to give Fauxton
> > >>> design suggestions, but we also have to consider the design of the
> > website,
> > >>> and also design of supporting documents, etc.
> > >>>
> > >>> Here is an example that Robert Kowalski shared with me:
> > >>> https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/37 that i think is a helpful
> > >>> example.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Michelle
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Eli Stevens (Gmail) <
> > wickedgrey@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It would be helpful for me (and perhaps others, I think) if more
> > >>>> examples/details were given about the intended audience and use.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The emphasis on screenshots makes me suspect that "design" means
> > >>>> "UI/CHI/visual design" rather than "software architecture," but
it's
> > >>>> still not clear exactly what would be considered on-topic for the
> > >>>> proposed space (Fauxton? Couchapps? Anything with a CouchDB
> backend?).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> To my old-fashioned MVC brain, the model is separated from the
view
> by
> > >>>> the controller, which means that the choice of backing store doesn't
> > >>>> impact the UI much. What criteria could I use to know if my project
> is
> > >>>> on topic?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm mostly interested because I'd like to know if I should lurk
> there
> > >>>> too or not.  :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Eli
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>> Good morning, Michelle!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> That's really good idea to choose better platform for target
> audience
> > >>>>> which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment
> (:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project
> > >>>>> discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using
> > >>>>> thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That
means
> > >>>>> don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform,
but
> +1
> > >>>>> such turn of events.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> ,,,^..^,,,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Michelle Phung <
> > michellep@apache.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I would like to open an account on a platform for CouchDB
> designers,
> > >>> design advocates, and design enthusiasts.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It is a place to discuss all things design related with
respect to
> > >>> CouchDB.
> > >>>>>> It could be a good place for people to learn about design.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> there are some design threads on github, which let people
comment,
> > and
> > >>> it supports inline comments with screenshots, but maybe some
> designers
> > are
> > >>> not on github.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> medium.com is another option.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> more ideas?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Michelle Phung
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andy Wenk
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