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From Johs Ensby <j...@b2w.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Create an account for designers to contribute to CouchDB
Date Wed, 16 Sep 2015 04:53:35 GMT
Michelle,
suggest Medium account with ...

"Email notifications on your content
( We’ll email you when there’s notifications on your stories and publications.)"

... set to design@ to comply with ASF policy as per Alexander's concern

Alexander,
I support you on encouraging ermouth suggestion to use Couch/Pouch based Inliner app as bases
for this.
Agree that is not crazy at all, on the contrary. I am using Inliner now and it is a very good
candidate to extend into Medium-like community app.
Integration with AFS mailing list would then be possible to customize for "backward compatibility"
while entering the area that arrived when social media supplemented email).

Medium, however has an excellent model for commenting that could be improved on and seen as
the pilot exercise for including designers in the community.
(I presume Michelle's ambition is to attract a new group of contributors, not only teach the
non-desginers about design)

johs
 
> 
> On 14. sep. 2015, at 17.41, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good morning, Michelle!
> 
> That's really good idea to choose better platform for target audience
> which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment (:
> 
> The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project
> discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using
> thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means
> don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML.
> 
> Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, but +1
> such turn of events.
> 
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
> 

> On 14. sep. 2015, at 22.09, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Use CouchDB-based service to work on CouchDB....That's not much crazy,
> but win-win idea and ideal case (;
> In the end, designers would be able to shape this service in the way
> they prefer for the effective workflow.
> 
> The only question is how much time/effort it would take to get it to
> the minimal usable state? And, since we stated talk about features,
> what are end users expectations and requirements for such service
> (minimal, good to have, sweet spot)?
> 
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:49 PM, ermouth <ermouth@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> more ideas?
>> 
>> Michelle, you may say I‘m crazy, but... What if we:
>> 
>>   - take this proto http://bit.ly/1iqHRt8 (works well in Chrome, FF, O)
>>   hosted on Cloudant,
>>   - improve it to usable state,
>>   - add comments,
>>   - add registration using social networks,
>>   - make it fly.
>> 
>> We may even enforce comments to start with ‘Yes, and ’ – bit crazy idea,
>> but it could be interesting social experiment )
>> 
>>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC
>> 
>> CouchDB is extremely effective for MVVM architectures as well. Above
>> example and ddoc.me/lab are both MVVM.
>> 
>> ermouth
>> 
>> 2015-09-14 21:34 GMT+03:00 Michelle Phung <michelle@linux.vnet.ibm.com>:
>> 
>>> Hi Eli,
>>> 
>>> Yes, by design, I am meaning UI/UX/CHI/visual design.
>>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC. :)
>>> 
>>> I was meaning initially to create a space for people to give Fauxton
>>> design suggestions, but we also have to consider the design of the website,
>>> and also design of supporting documents, etc.
>>> 
>>> Here is an example that Robert Kowalski shared with me:
>>> https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/37 that i think is a helpful
>>> example.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michelle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Eli Stevens (Gmail) <wickedgrey@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It would be helpful for me (and perhaps others, I think) if more
>>>> examples/details were given about the intended audience and use.
>>>> 
>>>> The emphasis on screenshots makes me suspect that "design" means
>>>> "UI/CHI/visual design" rather than "software architecture," but it's
>>>> still not clear exactly what would be considered on-topic for the
>>>> proposed space (Fauxton? Couchapps? Anything with a CouchDB backend?).
>>>> 
>>>> To my old-fashioned MVC brain, the model is separated from the view by
>>>> the controller, which means that the choice of backing store doesn't
>>>> impact the UI much. What criteria could I use to know if my project is
>>>> on topic?
>>>> 
>>>> I'm mostly interested because I'd like to know if I should lurk there
>>>> too or not.  :)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Eli
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Good morning, Michelle!
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's really good idea to choose better platform for target audience
>>>>> which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment (:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project
>>>>> discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using
>>>>> thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means
>>>>> don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, but +1
>>>>> such turn of events.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> ,,,^..^,,,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Michelle Phung <michellep@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to open an account on a platform for CouchDB designers,
>>> design advocates, and design enthusiasts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is a place to discuss all things design related with respect to
>>> CouchDB.
>>>>>> It could be a good place for people to learn about design.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> there are some design threads on github, which let people comment,
and
>>> it supports inline comments with screenshots, but maybe some designers are
>>> not on github.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> medium.com is another option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> more ideas?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michelle Phung
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 


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