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From Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Create an account for designers to contribute to CouchDB
Date Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:10:51 GMT
I throw in another idea and do suggest to use Confluence at:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Apache+CouchDB+Wiki

* we have that already set up
* it is run and supported by the ASF (INFRA)
* everyone with an account can create pages
* you can upload images easily
* everyone with an account can comment
* we do not have to set up anything - we can start NOW

Thoughts?

Cheers

Andy

P.S.: @ermouth: I like Inliner,
P.P.S:  personally, I don't like medium at all due to some bad experiences
I made last week. The commenting does not support code and the UX is
horrible (and faulty).


On 16 September 2015 at 06:53, Johs Ensby <johs@b2w.com> wrote:

> Michelle,
> suggest Medium account with ...
>
> "Email notifications on your content
> ( We’ll email you when there’s notifications on your stories and
> publications.)"
>
> ... set to design@ to comply with ASF policy as per Alexander's concern
>
> Alexander,
> I support you on encouraging ermouth suggestion to use Couch/Pouch based
> Inliner app as bases for this.
> Agree that is not crazy at all, on the contrary. I am using Inliner now
> and it is a very good candidate to extend into Medium-like community app.
> Integration with AFS mailing list would then be possible to customize for
> "backward compatibility" while entering the area that arrived when social
> media supplemented email).
>
> Medium, however has an excellent model for commenting that could be
> improved on and seen as the pilot exercise for including designers in the
> community.
> (I presume Michelle's ambition is to attract a new group of contributors,
> not only teach the non-desginers about design)
>
> johs
>
> >
> > On 14. sep. 2015, at 17.41, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Good morning, Michelle!
> >
> > That's really good idea to choose better platform for target audience
> > which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment (:
> >
> > The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project
> > discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using
> > thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means
> > don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML.
> >
> > Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, but +1
> > such turn of events.
> >
> > --
> > ,,,^..^,,,
> >
>
> > On 14. sep. 2015, at 22.09, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Use CouchDB-based service to work on CouchDB....That's not much crazy,
> > but win-win idea and ideal case (;
> > In the end, designers would be able to shape this service in the way
> > they prefer for the effective workflow.
> >
> > The only question is how much time/effort it would take to get it to
> > the minimal usable state? And, since we stated talk about features,
> > what are end users expectations and requirements for such service
> > (minimal, good to have, sweet spot)?
> >
> > --
> > ,,,^..^,,,
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:49 PM, ermouth <ermouth@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> more ideas?
> >>
> >> Michelle, you may say I‘m crazy, but... What if we:
> >>
> >>   - take this proto http://bit.ly/1iqHRt8 (works well in Chrome, FF, O)
> >>   hosted on Cloudant,
> >>   - improve it to usable state,
> >>   - add comments,
> >>   - add registration using social networks,
> >>   - make it fly.
> >>
> >> We may even enforce comments to start with ‘Yes, and ’ – bit crazy idea,
> >> but it could be interesting social experiment )
> >>
> >>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC
> >>
> >> CouchDB is extremely effective for MVVM architectures as well. Above
> >> example and ddoc.me/lab are both MVVM.
> >>
> >> ermouth
> >>
> >> 2015-09-14 21:34 GMT+03:00 Michelle Phung <michelle@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> >:
> >>
> >>> Hi Eli,
> >>>
> >>> Yes, by design, I am meaning UI/UX/CHI/visual design.
> >>> I am meaning the View part of the MVC. :)
> >>>
> >>> I was meaning initially to create a space for people to give Fauxton
> >>> design suggestions, but we also have to consider the design of the
> website,
> >>> and also design of supporting documents, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Here is an example that Robert Kowalski shared with me:
> >>> https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/37 that i think is a helpful
> >>> example.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Michelle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Eli Stevens (Gmail) <
> wickedgrey@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be helpful for me (and perhaps others, I think) if more
> >>>> examples/details were given about the intended audience and use.
> >>>>
> >>>> The emphasis on screenshots makes me suspect that "design" means
> >>>> "UI/CHI/visual design" rather than "software architecture," but it's
> >>>> still not clear exactly what would be considered on-topic for the
> >>>> proposed space (Fauxton? Couchapps? Anything with a CouchDB backend?).
> >>>>
> >>>> To my old-fashioned MVC brain, the model is separated from the view
by
> >>>> the controller, which means that the choice of backing store doesn't
> >>>> impact the UI much. What criteria could I use to know if my project
is
> >>>> on topic?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm mostly interested because I'd like to know if I should lurk there
> >>>> too or not.  :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Eli
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> Good morning, Michelle!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's really good idea to choose better platform for target audience
> >>>>> which simplifies main use cases. Should be interesting experiment
(:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem could be with the policy that all the ASF project
> >>>>> discussions should happens on ASF mailing lists. So, with using
> >>>>> thirdparty service, we need to workaround this somehow. That means
> >>>>> don't throw too far away your idea with design@ ML.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cannot say anything good or bad about medium or else platform, but
+1
> >>>>> such turn of events.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ,,,^..^,,,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Michelle Phung <
> michellep@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would like to open an account on a platform for CouchDB designers,
> >>> design advocates, and design enthusiasts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is a place to discuss all things design related with respect
to
> >>> CouchDB.
> >>>>>> It could be a good place for people to learn about design.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> there are some design threads on github, which let people comment,
> and
> >>> it supports inline comments with screenshots, but maybe some designers
> are
> >>> not on github.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> medium.com is another option.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> more ideas?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Michelle Phung
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>


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Andy Wenk
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