Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F97F177E8 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 11:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9087 invoked by uid 500); 28 May 2015 11:20:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 9025 invoked by uid 500); 28 May 2015 11:20:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 9013 invoked by uid 99); 28 May 2015 11:20:13 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 May 2015 11:20:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 56353182202 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 11:20:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NKSK-hG--ND4 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 11:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 7562343E3E for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 11:20:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FDC209DE for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 07:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 28 May 2015 07:18:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=goj441WA3SbL3TJ O95UP+y9BfYM=; b=Tf8MOPu6105FWbOv8lX20L3hMJzV7uX4LOdA6SY+R6vbdEJ uWf8GbgopuKDarbaHQMbJitdAebXpnLY/ZopmKkTdw0CCjyZFDNkBakXWe7tft7Z 2PdlLQMT4lIZ1NdGygnF0JHruNntWS38qd7R5KFDtL2jpIUtGQ2I7mDcKs90= X-Sasl-enc: XXCAn+ufoGhUNFXQXhG2EvgpPEQ0yFSSJ0MCdFffyNIC 1432811884 Received: from [10.146.78.242] (unknown [82.132.218.157]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A4AD5C00011 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 07:18:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Newson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: On Plugins and Extensibility Message-Id: <862B6A57-956B-4EDB-A764-291D13811300@apache.org> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 12:17:57 +0100 References: <27890466.266.1432745700681.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> In-Reply-To: <27890466.266.1432745700681.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12F70) Bob prefers the simplest solution that works. > On 27 May 2015, at 17:55, Joan Touzet wrote: > > I've skimmed the entire thread, and it seems like Ilya is trying to > solve a much bigger problem than Paul has outlined. Ilya's approach is > more all-encompassing but involves a lot of "make-work" just to get the > system back to its current state. Meanwhile, Paul is trying to respond > to some requests for enhancement (presumably coming thru IBM/Cloudant) > and is suggesting just enough functionality to fix that. > > Unless there are more developers outside of IBM willing to contribute > code towards Ilya's proposal my guess is that IBM won't approve the > resources for such a vast change, and I'm not seeing people rushing to > help implement this approach who are well acquainted with the couch > codebase. > > Paul, consider this a vote of support in favour of your proposal, subject > to the concerns already raised. What does Bob have to say? > > -Joan