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From Alexander Shorin <kxe...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
Date Sat, 01 Nov 2014 09:09:20 GMT
OuchDB! You made it (:
Circular designs are really nice: they have the project name, two
curved couches directed to each other suggests party communication /
data replication and multiple colours allows to fit it surrounding
environment better.  Though we're seems going to drop Relax moto...
--
,,,^..^,,,


On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM,  <justin@villageonline.info> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> These look great.
>
> I like the circular designs - how would these look with the current colours (ie Reds,
white and black) ?
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Pavlica [mailto:linicks@gmail.com]
> Sent: 31 October 2014 23:49
> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org; andywenk@apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
>
> All,
>
>
>> Hey Nick,
>>
>> attachments are not allowed on this ML and are being deleted. Could
>> you share it via link?
>>
>
>
>   Sorry, I didn't realize that the ML restricted attachments.  Here is a link to the
attachment in Dropbox:
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4e06ijhfizbd188/couchdb_concept_art.pdf?dl=0
>
>   -- Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Looking forward to see your ideas :)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> On 1 November 2014 00:07, Nick Pavlica <linicks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > All,
>> >   I'v crated some conceptual artwork in hopes of moving this
>> > discussion forward (see attached pdf).  The main idea is to get away
>> > from the couch with the human figure on it, and go with a top view
>> > of a circular, or conversation couch as we call them in the U.S.  I
>> > tried to stay true to
>> the
>> > current logo by retaining the motto, and Apache designation.  Of
>> > course this is a work in progress, and I look forward your feedback.
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > -- Nick Pavlica
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Joan Touzet <wohali@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have started a new marketing@ thread on changing the motto, as
>> >> it's
>> not
>> >> a developer-related issue.
>> >>
>> >> Trying to get this thread back on track, if people have new logo
>> >> suggestions - real ones, well designed, not jokes or vitriol,
>> >> please
>> post
>> >> them here for us to get a look at. We don't need an official
>> announcement
>> >> about a logo search/contest to start accepting submissions.
>> >>
>> >> -Joan
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Andy Wenk" <andywenk@apache.org>
>> >> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:09:24 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
>> >>
>> >> Jan,
>> >>
>> >> thanks for your list :) . That reflects and summarises my thoughts
>> >> as
>> well
>> >>
>> >> @Noah ... I understand confusion with Couchbase in social media. I
>> >> was
>> not
>> >> really aware of that. So I support the point working on that issue
>> >> but
>> am
>> >> still -1 in changing the name
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Andy
>> >>
>> >> On 30 October 2014 17:49, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Ah, sorry, I thought this was in reply to me. Hooray for
>> >> > non-threaded
>> >> MUAs
>> >> > :/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:47 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I was replying to this thread:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Andy:
>> >> > >> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give
>> >> > >> my
>> >> whatever
>> >> > > vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get
>> >> > > with a
>> >> > rename
>> >> > > .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Noah:
>> >> > >> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Andy:
>> >> > >> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly
>> >> > >> see
>> the
>> >> > > situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the
>> >> > > ML
>> who
>> >> > think
>> >> > > it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep
>> >> > > the
>> >> name
>> >> > and
>> >> > > clarify the situation as often as possible
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 30 October 2014 17:45, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org>
wrote:
>> >> > >> My comment on Couchbase was related to the logo, not the name.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Best
>> >> > >> Jan
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:39 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> No, because of the name.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org>
wrote:
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread,
and
>> >> > >>>>> shows no
>> >> signs
>> >> > >>>>> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue
is constantly
>> >> coming up
>> >> > >>>>> on social media, in person, and so on.
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> Because of the logo? I hardly think so.
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> Best
>> >> > >>>> Jan
>> >> > >>>> --
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with
Couchbase, basically.
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>> I am not sure how big this special issue is
because I
>> >> > >>>>>> clearly
>> see
>> >> > the
>> >> > >>>>>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look
to the people on
>> >> > >>>>>> the
>> ML
>> >> > who think
>> >> > >>>>>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I
would prefer to
>> >> > >>>>>> keep
>> >> the
>> >> > name and
>> >> > >>>>>> clarify the situation as often as possible
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with
2.0. But before I
>> >> > >>>>>>>> give
>> my
>> >> > whatever
>> >> > >>>>>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages
you expect
>> >> > >>>>>>>> to get
>> >> > with a
>> >> > >>>>>>> rename
>> >> > >>>>>>>> .... as of now - I can only think
of negative aspects ...
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith
<
>> jason.h.smith@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB
thing. Just stake
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> out
>> an
>> >> > arbitrary
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> mark from which we build clear,
unambiguous IP.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are
brainstorming names):
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>  Eight Ball
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't
get more eight ball!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change
has lots of
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> problems. But
>> >> it
>> >> > is worth
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that
now is the best time
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> to do
>> >> it,
>> >> > if it
>> >> > >>>>>>> is to
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> be done.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02
PM, Noah Slater <
>> >> > nslater@apache.org>
>> >> > >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename
it SleepyDB for a while now.
>> (cf.
>> >> > Max
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.)
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43,
Kevin Coombes <
>> >> > kevin.r.coombes@gmail.com>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing
the name. It's already "cooked"
>> >> into
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> everything
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> associated with the project.
There are links (and
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> hard
>> copy
>> >> > >>>>>>> references)
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> to
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s)
all over the place. How
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> long
>> do
>> >> > you
>> >> > >>>>>>> want
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> to
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> be
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS
or HTTP entries to forward
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> users
>> from
>> >> > the
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> current
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> names to whatever you
might pick for new ones?
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy
to see a new logo however.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> And
>> >> the
>> >> > last
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> time I
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot
more colors than just red or
>> >> blue....
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Kevin
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM,
"Brad Noble"
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> <bradn@us.ibm.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> *SyncDB*
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The database that
syncs.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Logo would embody
that idea.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide
details for Jason Smith
>> ---10/30/2014
>> >> > >>>>>>> 04:40:26
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30,
2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater
>> >> > <nslater@apache
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> ]Jason
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014
04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30,
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2014 at
>> >> > 12:52 AM,
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Noah
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Slater <nslater@apache.org>
wrote: > Blue is nice.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>> But
>> >> the
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith
<jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org"
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <dev@couchdb.apache.org>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40
AM
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS]
Improved CouchDB logo
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014
at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <
>> >> > nslater@apache.org>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice.
:) But then that tempts me to change
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >> name
>> >> > too.
>> >> > >>>>>>> I
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're
ever going to do this, now is the time.
>> >> It's
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> important
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to note though
that we have a very STRONG brand,
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >> > changing it
>> >> > >>>>>>> in
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> a
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change
the name!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Like all transitions,
it seems scary. But once it's
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> done
>> we
>> >> > will
>> >> > >>>>>>> all
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wonder
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what we were so worried
about.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The brand is strong,
but the question is, how much
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> that
>> >> > strength
>> >> > >>>>>>>>> can
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> we
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> keep, and how much
do we lose.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will keep
nearly all of it, plus we will
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> get
>> >> tons
>> >> > of
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> attention
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release
and name change. And as if that
>> already
>> >> > isn't
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> enough, we
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> get the opportunity
to walk away from a ton of
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> branding
>> >> > baggage and
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> trademark problems.
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> --
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>> --
>> >> > >>>>>>>> Andy Wenk
>> >> > >>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>> >> > >>>>>>>> RockIt!
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483
4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3
>> >> > >>>>>>>> 9ED3
>> >> 9588
>> >> > >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>> --
>> >> > >>>>>>> Noah Slater
>> >> > >>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >> > >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>> --
>> >> > >>>>>> Andy Wenk
>> >> > >>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>> >> > >>>>>> RockIt!
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC
9452 B65D 6BE3
>> >> > >>>>>> 9ED3
>> >> 9588
>> >> > >>>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>>
>> >> > >>>>> --
>> >> > >>>>> Noah Slater
>> >> > >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> --
>> >> > >>> Noah Slater
>> >> > >>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Noah Slater
>> >> > > https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Andy Wenk
>> >> Hamburg - Germany
>> >> RockIt!
>> >>
>> >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>> >>
>> >>  https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andy Wenk
>> Hamburg - Germany
>> RockIt!
>>
>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>
>>  https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>
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