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From Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
Date Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:39:49 GMT
No, because of the name.

On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread, and shows no signs
>> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue is constantly coming up
>> on social media, in person, and so on.
>
> Because of the logo? I hardly think so.
>
> Best
> Jan
> --
>
>
>>
>> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the
>>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who think
>>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name and
>>> clarify the situation as often as possible
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my whatever
>>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a
>>>> rename
>>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake out an arbitrary
>>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Eight Ball
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems. But it is
worth
>>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time to do it, if
it
>>>> is to
>>>>>> be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while now. (cf.
Max
>>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes <kevin.r.coombes@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already "cooked"
into
>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links (and hard copy
>>>> references)
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place. How long
do you
>>>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward users from
the
>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo however. And
the last
>>>>>> time I
>>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just red or blue....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Kevin
>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <bradn@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *SyncDB*
>>>>>>>>> The database that syncs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith ---10/30/2014
>>>> 04:40:26
>>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache
>>>>>>> ]Jason
>>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014
at 12:52 AM,
>>>>>> Noah
>>>>>>>>> Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote: > Blue is
nice. :) But the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts me to change
the name too.
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this, now is the
time. It's
>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG brand,
and changing it
>>>> in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But once it's done
we will
>>>> all
>>>>>>> wonder
>>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is, how much of
that strength
>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus we will get
tons of
>>>>>>> attention
>>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as if that already
isn't
>>>>>>> enough, we
>>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton of branding
baggage and
>>>>>>>>> trademark problems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Change the name!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>>> RockIt!
>>>>>
>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>>>
>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andy Wenk
>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>> RockIt!
>>>
>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>
>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>



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