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From Jan Lehnardt <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
Date Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:49:48 GMT
Ah, sorry, I thought this was in reply to me. Hooray for non-threaded MUAs :/


> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:47 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I was replying to this thread:
> 
> Andy:
>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give my whatever
> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to get with a rename
> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ...
> 
> Noah:
>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically.
> 
> Andy:
>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see the
> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML who think
> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the name and
> clarify the situation as often as possible
> 
> On 30 October 2014 17:45, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
>> My comment on Couchbase was related to the logo, not the name.
>> 
>> Best
>> Jan
>> --
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:39 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, because of the name.
>>> 
>>> On 30 October 2014 17:34, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 30 Oct 2014, at 17:33 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> The confusion with Couchbase is large, widespread, and shows no signs
>>>>> of resolving itself any time soon. This issue is constantly coming up
>>>>> on social media, in person, and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> Because of the logo? I hardly think so.
>>>> 
>>>> Best
>>>> Jan
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 30 October 2014 17:04, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:47, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Clear up massive brand confusion with Couchbase, basically.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not sure how big this special issue is because I clearly see
the
>>>>>> situation from CouchDB. If we have a look to the people on the ML
who think
>>>>>> it's Couchbase, that's very minimal ... I would prefer to keep the
name and
>>>>>> clarify the situation as often as possible
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:35, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> sure - IF we want to rename then with 2.0. But before I give
my whatever
>>>>>>>> vote, I would like to know which advantages you expect to
get with a
>>>>>>> rename
>>>>>>>> .... as of now - I can only think of negative aspects ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 16:08, Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Love it. Get away from the WhateverDB thing. Just stake
out an arbitrary
>>>>>>>>> mark from which we build clear, unambiguous IP.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My proposal (as long as we are brainstorming names):
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  Eight Ball
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tagline: Whatever you do. Don't get more eight ball!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> More seriously, yes, a name change has lots of problems.
But it is worth
>>>>>>>>> re-considering Noah's point that now is the best time
to do it, if it
>>>>>>> is to
>>>>>>>>> be done.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I've been wanting to rename it SleepyDB for a while
now. (cf. Max
>>>>>>>>>> Ogden's SLEEP protocol.)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 11:43, Kevin Coombes <kevin.r.coombes@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Definitely -1 on changing the name. It's already
"cooked" into
>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>> associated with the project. There are links
(and hard copy
>>>>>>> references)
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> the name and the web site(s) all over the place.
How long do you
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> forced to maintain DNS or HTTP entries to forward
users from the
>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>> names to whatever you might pick for new ones?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I would be perfectly happy to see a new logo
however. And the last
>>>>>>>>> time I
>>>>>>>>>>> looked, there were a lot more colors than just
red or blue....
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014 6:11 AM, "Brad Noble" <bradn@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> *SyncDB*
>>>>>>>>>>>> The database that syncs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Logo would embody that idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Inactive hide details for Jason Smith
---10/30/2014
>>>>>>> 04:40:26
>>>>>>>>>>>> AM---On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah
Slater <nslater@apache
>>>>>>>>>> ]Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>> Smith ---10/30/2014 04:40:26 AM---On Thu,
Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM,
>>>>>>>>> Noah
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> Blue is nice. :) But the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" <dev@couchdb.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 10/30/2014 04:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Noah Slater
<nslater@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blue is nice. :) But then that tempts
me to change the name too.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, if we're ever going to do this,
now is the time. It's
>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to note though that we have a very STRONG
brand, and changing it
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> big will be expensive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name! Change the name!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like all transitions, it seems scary. But
once it's done we will
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> wonder
>>>>>>>>>>>> what we were so worried about.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The brand is strong, but the question is,
how much of that strength
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>> keep, and how much do we lose.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we will keep nearly all of it, plus
we will get tons of
>>>>>>>>>> attention
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a 2.0 release and name change. And as
if that already isn't
>>>>>>>>>> enough, we
>>>>>>>>>>>> get the opportunity to walk away from a ton
of branding baggage and
>>>>>>>>>>>> trademark problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Change the name!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>>>>>> RockIt!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3
9ED3 9588
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>>>> RockIt!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Noah Slater
>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater


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