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From Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Chair rotation?
Date Thu, 07 Aug 2014 07:10:04 GMT
On 7 August 2014 08:54, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org> wrote:

>
> On 07 Aug 2014, at 00:51 , Robert Samuel Newson <rnewson@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > The Chair is also and Officer of the ASF (
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#why-are-PMC-chairs-officers),
> so are we only able to select an existing Officer or does being elected as
> Chair cause one to become an Officer? If so, do they remain an Officer if
> subsequently replaced by another?
>
> My understanding is this: Any PMC member can become PMC chair. The ASF
> Office of Chair is relinquished when giving up the position. ASF membership
> is orthogonal to all this.
>

also my understanding.


> On 07 Aug 2014, at 01:41 , Joan Touzet <wohali@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > As for term start/end, does Jan have an opinion here? If he's exhausted,
> I
> > don't want to force him to continue past his ability to serve.
>
> I’m happy with the new rules. I don’t have a preference as to when the
> term should start. I’m happy to serve another term :)
>

I expected this Jan - so that's the reason why I suggested to start now
with the term and elect in 12 months :)

Cheers

Andy


>
> Best
> Jan
> --
> >
> > B.
> >
> > On 6 Aug 2014, at 23:29, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> seconding Paul. Was my first thought also. Starting the term now, so
> that
> >> we hold an election in 12 months.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7 August 2014 00:08, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'd lean towards having the term start now instead of end now. I can't
> >>> come up with a super convincing argument either direction though.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> Hello folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> It's time we have a discussion about the position of Chair. Jan has
> >>>> held office for a while now, and has done a great job of it. But our
> >>>> new bylaws specify that we will hold yearly reelections.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have a number of options here:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. We say that Jan's position started on the day the bylaws were
> >>>> ratified, and in 12 months we hold an election.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. We say that Jan's position is up (having already held it for more
> >>>> than 12 months) and we either nominated a new Chair or we hold a vote.
> >>>>
> >>>> Let's try to get general consensus about which option we want to take.
> >>>> If there's clear agreement, we'll move forward with that option.
> >>>>
> >>>> Remember: our rationale for re-electing the Chair is that we think
> >>>> that doing so is beneficial for the project. Giving new people a
> >>>> chance to serve a term may stimulate activity and change, and so on.
> >>>> It also helps familiarise as many people as possible with all parts
of
> >>>> the project.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jan has done a sterling job, and nobody can deny it. This discussion
> >>>> isn't about whether we need to replace him. It's only about when we
> >>>> set the end date of his current term. Immediately or 12 months in the
> >>>> future. :)
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, please, whatever you do, please do not reply to this email with
> >>>> a nomination. Such as: "I think Monty would make a good Chair." Chair
> >>>> nomination itself will happen in private on the PMC list.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Noah Slater
> >>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andy Wenk
> >> Hamburg - Germany
> >> RockIt!
> >>
> >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> >>
> >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
> >
>
>


-- 
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!

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