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From Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Chair rotation?
Date Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:22:22 GMT
cool - thanks Noah!


On 11 August 2014 13:14, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:

> It looks like we reached consensus here. Jan's term started the day we
> voted the bylaws in. I will set a reminder for 12 months. :)
>
> On 8 August 2014 19:39, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> > Bob, individuals are Officers of the Foundation for the duration they
> > hold the position of Chair. You need to be an Officer (in American
> > corporation law) to carry out your duties as Chair. Nothing any more
> > complex than that.
> >
> > VP CouchDB is Jan's title as an Officer. Whoever is elected next will
> > also get the title VP CouchDB, and will also become an Officer.
> > Meanwhile, Jan will no longer be the Chair, the VP CouchDB, or an
> > Officer.
> >
> > Do you think this needs clarification in the bylaws?
> >
> > On 7 August 2014 00:51, Robert Samuel Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Chair is also and Officer of the ASF (
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#why-are-PMC-chairs-officers),
> so are we only able to select an existing Officer or does being elected as
> Chair cause one to become an Officer? If so, do they remain an Officer if
> subsequently replaced by another?
> >>
> >> B.
> >>
> >> On 6 Aug 2014, at 23:29, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> seconding Paul. Was my first thought also. Starting the term now, so
> that
> >>> we hold an election in 12 months.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7 August 2014 00:08, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'd lean towards having the term start now instead of end now. I can't
> >>>> come up with a super convincing argument either direction though.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>> Hello folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's time we have a discussion about the position of Chair. Jan
has
> >>>>> held office for a while now, and has done a great job of it. But
our
> >>>>> new bylaws specify that we will hold yearly reelections.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have a number of options here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. We say that Jan's position started on the day the bylaws were
> >>>>> ratified, and in 12 months we hold an election.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. We say that Jan's position is up (having already held it for
more
> >>>>> than 12 months) and we either nominated a new Chair or we hold a
> vote.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let's try to get general consensus about which option we want to
> take.
> >>>>> If there's clear agreement, we'll move forward with that option.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Remember: our rationale for re-electing the Chair is that we think
> >>>>> that doing so is beneficial for the project. Giving new people a
> >>>>> chance to serve a term may stimulate activity and change, and so
on.
> >>>>> It also helps familiarise as many people as possible with all parts
> of
> >>>>> the project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jan has done a sterling job, and nobody can deny it. This discussion
> >>>>> isn't about whether we need to replace him. It's only about when
we
> >>>>> set the end date of his current term. Immediately or 12 months in
the
> >>>>> future. :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, please, whatever you do, please do not reply to this email
with
> >>>>> a nomination. Such as: "I think Monty would make a good Chair."
Chair
> >>>>> nomination itself will happen in private on the PMC list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Noah Slater
> >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andy Wenk
> >>> Hamburg - Germany
> >>> RockIt!
> >>>
> >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> >>>
> >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Noah Slater
> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater
>



-- 
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!

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