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From "Russell Branca" <russ...@chewbranca.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Chair rotation?
Date Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:24:09 GMT
Late to the party but I'm +1 to Jan's one year term just starting.


-Russell

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:22 AM, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:

> cool - thanks Noah!
> On 11 August 2014 13:14, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>> It looks like we reached consensus here. Jan's term started the day we
>> voted the bylaws in. I will set a reminder for 12 months. :)
>>
>> On 8 August 2014 19:39, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Bob, individuals are Officers of the Foundation for the duration they
>> > hold the position of Chair. You need to be an Officer (in American
>> > corporation law) to carry out your duties as Chair. Nothing any more
>> > complex than that.
>> >
>> > VP CouchDB is Jan's title as an Officer. Whoever is elected next will
>> > also get the title VP CouchDB, and will also become an Officer.
>> > Meanwhile, Jan will no longer be the Chair, the VP CouchDB, or an
>> > Officer.
>> >
>> > Do you think this needs clarification in the bylaws?
>> >
>> > On 7 August 2014 00:51, Robert Samuel Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The Chair is also and Officer of the ASF (
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#why-are-PMC-chairs-officers),
>> so are we only able to select an existing Officer or does being elected as
>> Chair cause one to become an Officer? If so, do they remain an Officer if
>> subsequently replaced by another?
>> >>
>> >> B.
>> >>
>> >> On 6 Aug 2014, at 23:29, Andy Wenk <andywenk@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> seconding Paul. Was my first thought also. Starting the term now, so
>> that
>> >>> we hold an election in 12 months.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>>
>> >>> Andy
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 7 August 2014 00:08, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I'd lean towards having the term start now instead of end now. I
can't
>> >>>> come up with a super convincing argument either direction though.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Hello folks,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It's time we have a discussion about the position of Chair.
Jan has
>> >>>>> held office for a while now, and has done a great job of it.
But our
>> >>>>> new bylaws specify that we will hold yearly reelections.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We have a number of options here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 1. We say that Jan's position started on the day the bylaws
were
>> >>>>> ratified, and in 12 months we hold an election.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2. We say that Jan's position is up (having already held it
for more
>> >>>>> than 12 months) and we either nominated a new Chair or we hold
a
>> vote.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Let's try to get general consensus about which option we want
to
>> take.
>> >>>>> If there's clear agreement, we'll move forward with that option.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Remember: our rationale for re-electing the Chair is that we
think
>> >>>>> that doing so is beneficial for the project. Giving new people
a
>> >>>>> chance to serve a term may stimulate activity and change, and
so on.
>> >>>>> It also helps familiarise as many people as possible with all
parts
>> of
>> >>>>> the project.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jan has done a sterling job, and nobody can deny it. This discussion
>> >>>>> isn't about whether we need to replace him. It's only about
when we
>> >>>>> set the end date of his current term. Immediately or 12 months
in the
>> >>>>> future. :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Also, please, whatever you do, please do not reply to this email
with
>> >>>>> a nomination. Such as: "I think Monty would make a good Chair."
Chair
>> >>>>> nomination itself will happen in private on the PMC list.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Noah Slater
>> >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Andy Wenk
>> >>> Hamburg - Germany
>> >>> RockIt!
>> >>>
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>> >>>
>> >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Noah Slater
>> > https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
> -- 
> Andy Wenk
> Hamburg - Germany
> RockIt!
> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
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