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From Benoit Chesneau <bchesn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [REQUES] Review proposed bylaws (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Project bylaws)
Date Thu, 05 Jun 2014 10:01:06 GMT
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Alexander Shorin <kxepal@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Joan Touzet <wohali@apache.org> wrote:
> > Proof by counterexample: I have been involved in a private gaming
> > community for a long time where the only rule was "be polite" / "don't
> > be an asshole". Recently it has been made painfully clear that, to some
> > people, being polite means it's OK to be sexist, racist, disparage
> > people who don't agree with you, villainize foreigners, and worse that
> > I won't bring to bear on this list.
>
> I'll quote myself:
>
>     Being polite is a matter of etiquette; it's about respect, and being
>     considerate of people's feelings, culture, and values. Polite and
>     mannerly imply consideration for others and the adherence to
>     conventional social standards of good behavior.
>
> This definition is from English Oxford dictionary explicitly conflicts with
> "being polite means it's OK to be sexist, racist, disparage  people
> who don't agree with you, villainize foreigners, and worse that", so
> that's NOT OK or someone didn't understand words he says. Otherwise I
> could say the same about any statement of CoC: "sorry, I don't see any
> harassments, sexual attacks or disrespect in my words - you imagined
> all these problems by yourself because you psychologically prone to
> see these problems". But we all know that's not right way to go.
>
> Anyway, won't to insist on anything: just wanted to point on idea to
> provide simple and short rules description for people who knows what
> they doing and saying and who are on the same wave as we are. As for
> others the detailed explanation below is always available below which
> defines what we means under "being polite".
>
>
+1

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