Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F260A10801 for ; Mon, 26 May 2014 21:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11224 invoked by uid 500); 26 May 2014 21:02:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 11161 invoked by uid 500); 26 May 2014 21:02:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 11153 invoked by uid 99); 26 May 2014 21:02:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 May 2014 21:02:10 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of joant@lrtw.org designates 204.11.51.157 as permitted sender) Received: from [204.11.51.157] (HELO smtp.justsomehost.net) (204.11.51.157) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 May 2014 21:02:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4969E445AF for ; Mon, 26 May 2014 17:01:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jsent.ca Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.justsomehost.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GNQENbRiLuCh for ; Mon, 26 May 2014 17:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net (smtp.justsomehost.net [204.11.51.157]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B667444635 for ; Mon, 26 May 2014 17:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:01:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Joan Touzet To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Message-ID: <10316916.565.1401138090904.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> In-Reply-To: <39B52E61-8C43-4ECD-95D2-E6634A4CC62A@apache.org> Subject: Re: [REQUES] Review proposed bylaws (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Project bylaws) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [69.165.165.30] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.10_GA_2692 (Zimbra Desktop/7.2.5_12038_Windows) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On the "COPDOC" thing: > > On 20 May 2014 23:43, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > >> 2.3. would specifically invite designers, both visual and user interfa= ce designers. Not sure we need a name like COPDOC. > >=20 > > I started down this path of listing things we're interested in, but it > > got too long, so I spun it off into a new doc. > >=20 > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Contributor+Guide >=20 > That=E2=80=99s good, but still lacking e.g. designers. The bylaws should = include a summary, and/or a pointer to the=20 > Contributor Guide. > > The COPDOC stuff has prior art: > >=20 > > https://forrest.apache.org/committed.html >=20 > I=E2=80=99m hearing this for the first time, I=E2=80=99d be afraid to sou= nd overly complicated for no good reason and it=20 > doesn=E2=80=99t include some groups of folks that we (should) care about.= =E2=80=9CPeople that we care about contributing to=20 > CouchDB=E2=80=9D doesn=E2=80=99t need an acronym to make any clearer what= we mean. I hadn't heard the acronym previously, and a quick web search doesn't turn = up any other uses of it. Still, the list of "what we value," just like the = list of "we don't discriminate against these things" should be ever-expandi= ng. I am not opposed to spinning this lit out and instead saying something = like: "We value contributions that include, but are not limited to: community, = project, documentation, code, visual design, internationalisation, ..." and= then link to the contributor guide as a full resource. My rule of thumb for something like bylaws is: if we have to change the byl= aws ever, we made a mistake. That should happen every year or two *max*. If= something is liable to change often, spin it out into another policy doc a= nd go from there.