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From Jan Lehnardt <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache CouchDB Diversity Statement.
Date Thu, 01 May 2014 17:42:46 GMT
+1

On 29 Apr 2014, at 11:23 , Robert Kowalski <rok@kowalski.gd> wrote:

> +1
> 
> 
> 2014-04-29 10:07 GMT+02:00 Garren Smith <garren@apache.org>:
> 
>> +1 This is a great idea.
>> 
>> On 28 Apr 2014, at 11:34 PM, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> +1, especially to broadening the definition of contributions that we
>> recognize.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Andy Wenk <andy@nms.de> wrote:
>>>> two docs make sense imho. +1
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 28 April 2014 22:44, Robert Samuel Newson <rnewson@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Count me in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> B.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Apr 2014, at 21:09, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yep. Happy to see what the drafts look like. If two docs make sense,
>>>>>> two docs make sense.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 April 2014 22:04, Joan Touzet <joant@atypical.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Nice. I personally would still like to see Diversity broken out
in a
>>>>> separate document, but the idea of a charter is very good and this
>> covers a
>>>>> lot of ground.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This also dovetails very nicely with the mentorship ideas I have
>>>>> floated here and on IRC in the past.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1, let's do this!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Noah Slater" <nslater@apache.org>
>>>>>>> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 3:50:15 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache CouchDB Diversity Statement.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have two things I'd like to add.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. I'd like to widen this bit and turn it into a PMC charter.
>>>>>>> Basically a document that sets out what the PMC values, our
>> commitment
>>>>>>> to diversity, and our pledge to the project. It's basically the
same
>>>>>>> idea, but with a flourishes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The closest we have to this at the moment is here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=couchdb-admin.git;a=blob_plain;f=email/invite_pmc.txt;hb=HEAD
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd like to improve on this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2. Technical ability is something I feel very strongly about.
We've
>>>>>>> made a huge blunder IMO in requiring past contributors to be
highly
>>>>>>> technical. I would like to introduce and officialise the same
policy
>>>>>>> as Apache Forrest.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> cf. https://forrest.apache.org/committed.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Summary: we recognise merit in four areas:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (Co)mmunity - one must interact with others, and share vision
and
>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>> (P)roject - a clear vision and consensus are needed
>>>>>>> (Do)cumentation - without it, the stuff remains only in the minds
of
>>>>> the authors
>>>>>>> (C)ode - discussion goes nowhere without code
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would like to think that we would elect someone who is blogging
for
>>>>>>> us, or doing marketing, or speaking a lot. These are all important
>>>>>>> people, and their importance to the project should be recognised.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's been about two years since I started pushing on this topic
at
>> the
>>>>>>> PMC level and there have been big cultural changes. I am confident
>>>>>>> that I could elect people with contributions in any of these
areas.
>>>>>>> But I want to make it official.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is what we value. This is what we will recognise. Our promise
to
>>>>>>> the community.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>> RockIt!
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>> 
>> 


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