Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CBE410CD6 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47901 invoked by uid 500); 29 Apr 2014 19:50:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-dev-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 47853 invoked by uid 500); 29 Apr 2014 19:50:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 47844 invoked by uid 99); 29 Apr 2014 19:50:20 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:50:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-qc0-f172.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username nslater, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 19:50:20 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id i8so811614qcq.17 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 12:50:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm1cufTp/veKBHCgQfmLXPYU3N82OLk5E7Z4zXnI0w6W6TZzObzGPEPOnhE6XX+zCCfl6sn MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.176.72 with SMTP id bd8mr2087374qcb.12.1398801019888; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 12:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.28.38 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 12:50:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [77.12.214.245] In-Reply-To: <13534696.19077.1398721715193.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> References: <9E0FFAFF-6D59-40BC-9766-0BE94E00DD2F@apache.org> <13534696.19077.1398721715193.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 21:50:19 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Project by-laws From: Noah Slater To: "dev@couchdb.apache.org" Cc: Andreas Wenk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay folks. I've prepared a first draft of our bylaws. Concrit very much appreciated. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3D40511017 On 28 April 2014 23:48, Joan Touzet wrote: > My line of thinking was along the lines of what Ellis and Stroustrup did = in The Annotated C++ Language Reference Manual[1]. It often helps to have a= human being explain what some things mean through the use of examples or e= xtra text. A crisp legal-ish statement of the rule followed by some explana= tory text would be most helpful, and friendlier for new people to get their= heads around. > > -Joan > > [1] http://www.stroustrup.com/arm.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Samuel Newson" > To: dev@couchdb.apache.org > Cc: andy@nms.de > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 5:13:06 PM > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Project by-laws > > > It does seem justified though, it=E2=80=99s obviously to make it easy to = refer unambiguously to a particular item, that doesn=E2=80=99t mean to say = we can=E2=80=99t render it better than this. I would rather not have a docu= ment that states everything twice if we can avoid it. > > B. > > On 28 Apr 2014, at 22:09, Joan Touzet wrote: > >> I have form issues with these bylaws, primarily that they are intimidati= ng >> in their layout and structure. Legal-style #.#.#.# can be especially har= d >> to read and encodes a viewpoint that is grounded in the American legal >> system. The HTML formatting in this specific example is also difficult >> to read >> >> That said, perhaps it is appropriate that our bylaws be this way at leas= t >> in part. Would anyone object to a plain-language summary up top in addit= ion >> to the legal #.#.#.# commentary? >> >> -Joan > --=20 Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater