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From Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache CouchDB Developer Code of Conduct
Date Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:49:44 GMT
Makes me realise: we ought to be explicit about how this applies to
IRC and our moderation policy.

On 29 April 2014 22:48, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> Some more links.
>
> Mikeal Rogers pointed me to:
>
> http://nodeirc.info/
>
> Node uses the following CoC for IRC:
>
> http://confcodeofconduct.com/
>
> I like this a lot:
>
> http://blog.izs.me/post/30036893703/policy-on-trolling
>
> On 29 April 2014 22:34, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>> Coraline Ada Ehmke (via Twitter) pointed me to this:
>>
>> https://github.com/bantik/contributor_covenant
>>
>> On 29 April 2014 17:54, Nick North <north.n@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I prefer the flavour of the Django one. The first point is, "Be welcoming,
>>> friendly and patient" which feels to me to be about going out of your way
>>> to help people and making a positive effort to be good, and the rest is in
>>> the same spirit. The Debian one feels a bit less positive: "be wiling to
>>> explain to others", "try to stay on topic" etc. The Django one also gives
>>> examples of things you may be doing wrong, which can be helpful. But both
>>> are good - I certainly wouldn't vote against something that looked like the
>>> Debian one.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 April 2014 16:36, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps we ought to take the best bits of both and stick it in a wiki
>>>> page where we can collaboratively edit. There are a few things from my
>>>> notes that I likely want to add in addition to both.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 April 2014 16:58, Joan Touzet <joant@atypical.net> wrote:
>>>> > Can I ask folks who prefer the Django one to the Debian one specially
>>>> > why? Is there something in Django's that's not in Debian's? Is there
>>>> stuff
>>>> > in the Debian one that people don't like explicitlly?
>>>> >
>>>> > For me, I agree the Django one is shorter and better formatted, but
it
>>>> > seemed to cover less ground than the Debian one.
>>>> >
>>>> > -Joan
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Nick North" <north.n@gmail.com>
>>>> > To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:30:48 AM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache CouchDB Developer Code of Conduct
>>>> >
>>>> > +1 on the CoC idea. I also like the Django example as a starting point.
>>>> And
>>>> > definitely +1 on no profanity - plenty of people are offended by it,
and
>>>> > that in itself should be enough to rule it out. It also adds nothing
to
>>>> the
>>>> > process of communicating ideas to the community.
>>>> >
>>>> > Nick
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 29 April 2014 13:15, Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Mike Rhodes <mike.rhodes@cloudant.com
>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > On 29 April 2014 11:18, Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > > Rule: No profanity
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > Secondly, this is only a suspicion, but I think profanity
(and also
>>>> >> cocky
>>>> >> > > faux hatred), is a shibboleth indicating manhood and that
we are in
>>>> a
>>>> >> > > men-only club. It's like a loud fart or belch, or scratching
your
>>>> >> groin.
>>>> >> > > Men generally curb that behavior in mixed company. It
reminds me of
>>>> >> bulls
>>>> >> > > locking horns to impress a mate. Maybe F-bombs and the
anger it
>>>> stands
>>>> >> > for
>>>> >> > > are scaring some women away from software. Could be wrong,
though.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > +1 to guidance against profanity, particularly casual. Crassness
is
>>>> >> > unpleasant.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > -1 to casual sexism that women don't swear, fart or scratch
their
>>>> >> crotches.
>>>> >> > I know you didn't mean harm, but this trap is too easy to fall
into
>>>> and
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> > relevant here.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Well anyway I'm glad there's some momentum (if not yet consensus)
to
>>>> this
>>>> >> idea. Thanks.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>
>>
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>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
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