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From Nick North <nort...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache CouchDB Developer Code of Conduct
Date Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:54:01 GMT
I prefer the flavour of the Django one. The first point is, "Be welcoming,
friendly and patient" which feels to me to be about going out of your way
to help people and making a positive effort to be good, and the rest is in
the same spirit. The Debian one feels a bit less positive: "be wiling to
explain to others", "try to stay on topic" etc. The Django one also gives
examples of things you may be doing wrong, which can be helpful. But both
are good - I certainly wouldn't vote against something that looked like the
Debian one.

Nick


On 29 April 2014 16:36, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:

> Perhaps we ought to take the best bits of both and stick it in a wiki
> page where we can collaboratively edit. There are a few things from my
> notes that I likely want to add in addition to both.
>
>
> On 29 April 2014 16:58, Joan Touzet <joant@atypical.net> wrote:
> > Can I ask folks who prefer the Django one to the Debian one specially
> > why? Is there something in Django's that's not in Debian's? Is there
> stuff
> > in the Debian one that people don't like explicitlly?
> >
> > For me, I agree the Django one is shorter and better formatted, but it
> > seemed to cover less ground than the Debian one.
> >
> > -Joan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick North" <north.n@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 9:30:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache CouchDB Developer Code of Conduct
> >
> > +1 on the CoC idea. I also like the Django example as a starting point.
> And
> > definitely +1 on no profanity - plenty of people are offended by it, and
> > that in itself should be enough to rule it out. It also adds nothing to
> the
> > process of communicating ideas to the community.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > On 29 April 2014 13:15, Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Mike Rhodes <mike.rhodes@cloudant.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 29 April 2014 11:18, Jason Smith <jason.h.smith@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Rule: No profanity
> >> > >
> >> > > Secondly, this is only a suspicion, but I think profanity (and also
> >> cocky
> >> > > faux hatred), is a shibboleth indicating manhood and that we are in
> a
> >> > > men-only club. It's like a loud fart or belch, or scratching your
> >> groin.
> >> > > Men generally curb that behavior in mixed company. It reminds me of
> >> bulls
> >> > > locking horns to impress a mate. Maybe F-bombs and the anger it
> stands
> >> > for
> >> > > are scaring some women away from software. Could be wrong, though.
> >> >
> >> > +1 to guidance against profanity, particularly casual. Crassness is
> >> > unpleasant.
> >> >
> >> > -1 to casual sexism that women don't swear, fart or scratch their
> >> crotches.
> >> > I know you didn't mean harm, but this trap is too easy to fall into
> and
> >> is
> >> > relevant here.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well anyway I'm glad there's some momentum (if not yet consensus) to
> this
> >> idea. Thanks.
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater
>

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