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From Garren Smith <gar...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache CouchDB Diversity Statement.
Date Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:07:22 GMT
+1 This is a great idea.

On 28 Apr 2014, at 11:34 PM, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.davis@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1, especially to broadening the definition of contributions that we recognize.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Andy Wenk <andy@nms.de> wrote:
>> two docs make sense imho. +1
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 April 2014 22:44, Robert Samuel Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Count me in.
>>> 
>>> B.
>>> 
>>> On 28 Apr 2014, at 21:09, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yep. Happy to see what the drafts look like. If two docs make sense,
>>>> two docs make sense.
>>>> 
>>>> On 28 April 2014 22:04, Joan Touzet <joant@atypical.net> wrote:
>>>>> Nice. I personally would still like to see Diversity broken out in a
>>> separate document, but the idea of a charter is very good and this covers a
>>> lot of ground.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This also dovetails very nicely with the mentorship ideas I have
>>> floated here and on IRC in the past.
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1, let's do this!
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Noah Slater" <nslater@apache.org>
>>>>> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 3:50:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache CouchDB Diversity Statement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have two things I'd like to add.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. I'd like to widen this bit and turn it into a PMC charter.
>>>>> Basically a document that sets out what the PMC values, our commitment
>>>>> to diversity, and our pledge to the project. It's basically the same
>>>>> idea, but with a flourishes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The closest we have to this at the moment is here:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=couchdb-admin.git;a=blob_plain;f=email/invite_pmc.txt;hb=HEAD
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to improve on this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Technical ability is something I feel very strongly about. We've
>>>>> made a huge blunder IMO in requiring past contributors to be highly
>>>>> technical. I would like to introduce and officialise the same policy
>>>>> as Apache Forrest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> cf. https://forrest.apache.org/committed.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Summary: we recognise merit in four areas:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Co)mmunity - one must interact with others, and share vision and
>>> knowledge
>>>>> (P)roject - a clear vision and consensus are needed
>>>>> (Do)cumentation - without it, the stuff remains only in the minds of
>>> the authors
>>>>> (C)ode - discussion goes nowhere without code
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would like to think that we would elect someone who is blogging for
>>>>> us, or doing marketing, or speaking a lot. These are all important
>>>>> people, and their importance to the project should be recognised.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's been about two years since I started pushing on this topic at the
>>>>> PMC level and there have been big cultural changes. I am confident
>>>>> that I could elect people with contributions in any of these areas.
>>>>> But I want to make it official.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is what we value. This is what we will recognise. Our promise to
>>>>> the community.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Andy Wenk
>> Hamburg - Germany
>> RockIt!
>> 
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>> 
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