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Subject: Re: Goals for 2014
From: Robert Samuel Newson <rnewson@apache.org>
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:50:48 +0000
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To: dev@couchdb.apache.org

Hi,

It=92s largely because we=92re all busy with wholly bigcouch internal =
things on our 1843-feature-bigcouch branch, there=92s nothing *yet* to =
cooperate/feedback about. The closest thing is the bit I=92m hacking on =
("Build with rebar").

I agree that we should not be inventing new things during the merge, but =
then I saw you were splitting out parts of couch_httpd elsewhere, which =
counts as that.

Before bigcouch can be merged, it needs to build and run and perform as =
many of the features as possible, that simply can=92t happen until =
'make' works. I deliberately started from your rebar.config.script =
rather than the code that bigcouch uses (which uses Scons) as it=92s the =
right approach. That it=92s not identical is not a problem, in my =
opinion, but we can judge that at merge time. It needs to work first.

I appreciate your "during 2 years" comment but let=92s not go there, I =
can pull a larger value, as can everyone else at Cloudant, but that=92s =
going to be tiresome and divisive and it achieves nothing.

Short version: If it was as simple as dropping in the rcouch versions of =
these pieces, I=92d have finished a week ago. Software is not so simple.

B.

On 4 Feb 2014, at 15:43, Benoit Chesneau <bchesneau@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Robert Samuel Newson =
<rnewson@apache.org>wrote:
>=20
>> "Recent commits in the bigcouch branch redoing some
>> work already done in rcouch (coming from a 2 years experience"
>>=20
>> Work done in rcouch is not sacred, does not necessarily go into =
couchdb
>> master without editing or review by anyone else, and that applies to
>> bigcouch as well. As you should know, bigcouch also builds with rebar =
but
>> *differently*. I am expending time and effort to find a way to make =
it all
>> work together. Please stop this attitude.
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> Sorry? Where do you see I am saying it's sacred.
>=20
> All I am saying is that it would be a lot more productive time for =
both
> if instead of putting code from each other branches without
> consultations, we could sit around a branch and start to put the code
> where we have the experience in.
>=20
> And don't get me wrong here, I don't imply you don't know what you do.
> But I put a lot of time, working on this code with others in rcouch,
> during 2 years, so it is a lot easier for me to go on it. I don't see
> the point at all to start a new thing on a branch which wasn't planned
> at the beginning of the merge. This is why I didn't included any
> optimizations from rcouch and bigger changes in couch core so it can =
be
> merged easily.
>=20
> I was hoping from more cooperation and feedback, like commenting on =
the
> code or saying if a particular piece is wrong and alike.