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From Garren Smith <gar...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [NOTICE] New wiki (Was: Re: [DISCUSS] Switching wiki to Confluence)
Date Mon, 03 Feb 2014 07:08:19 GMT
This is great.  Is it possible to create a nice url like wiki.couchdb.com for it?


On 02 Feb 2014, at 10:04 PM, Andy Wenk <andy@nms.de> wrote:

> Super cool! Do you want us to do anything right now? As I understood you
> will get in touch with people to ask them if they move contents to the new
> wiki. Is that correct?
> 
> Shall we create an account already?
> 
> 
> On 2 February 2014 16:03, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Well, I don't think we should migrate it in bulk.
>> 
>> As you point out, there are some judgement calls to be made.
>> 
>> Perhaps pages that obviously belong in the docs could be exported
>> somehow, or moved to a "should be in the docs" ghetto. Meanwhile,
>> anything obviously belonging on the wiki can be moved over verbatim
>> for the time being.
>> 
>> I plan to "blank" pages as I go. Replacing them with a single
>> instruction to either visit the new page on the new wiki, or to
>> consult the docs.
>> 
>> On 2 February 2014 15:58, Robert Samuel Newson <rnewson@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Cool!
>>> 
>>> Should we migrate the old one or start a new, clean one? We can take
>> what's good from the old one and leave the rest. Given we now have
>> docs.couchdb.org where the design, philosophy and API guide should live,
>> the new wiki should just be the other things (pages for various tools,
>> guides on building or installation, use cases, clever techniques, details
>> of internals, and so on).
>>> 
>>> B.
>>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:22, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>> 
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>> 
>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>> 
>>>> For the time being, we will have two wikis. Once the entire migration
>>>> is complete, we'll update the links on our homepage.
>>>> 
>>>> On 2 February 2014 15:21, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> We have a new wiki:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/CouchDB+Home
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will add some notices to our old wiki asking people to move over.
>>>>> And I will begin the manual process of moving things over myself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 February 2014 14:23, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> JIRA created: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-7256
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18 August 2013 17:29, Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks folks. Looks like we have consensus. I'll add this to
my todo
>> list
>>>>>>> and reach out to those who volunteered their time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 August 2013 20:32, Jan Lehnardt <jan@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A little later, but nevertheless +1, if things will be greener
on
>> the
>>>>>>>> other side and people are willing to help with the conversion
:)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 12, 2013, at 02:24 , Noah Slater <nslater@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We're moving the docs to the source, which is great!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, we still have some stuff that we wanna keep
on the wiki
>> for
>>>>>>>>> now:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> * Weekly news (not started yet)
>>>>>>>>> * Merge procedure
>>>>>>>>> * Release procedure
>>>>>>>>> * Release preparation
>>>>>>>>> * Test procedure
>>>>>>>>> * Committer election process
>>>>>>>>> * PMC election process
>>>>>>>>> * Community guide
>>>>>>>>> * Roadmap process
>>>>>>>>> * Board reports
>>>>>>>>> * Board report guide
>>>>>>>>> * Code of conduct
>>>>>>>>> * PMC charter
>>>>>>>>> * By-laws
>>>>>>>>> * Marketing guide
>>>>>>>>> * CouchDB vision stuff
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Um. Probably more stuff. That's just stuff I am interested
in
>> working
>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, this is all project-level stuff. Doesn't belong
on the
>> homepage,
>>>>>>>>> doesn't belong in the manual.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've been editing the wiki more and more recently, and
I gotta
>> tell you:
>>>>>>>>> it's a bag of shit. I mean really, I pressed "submit"
on a change
>> about
>>>>>>>>> 20
>>>>>>>>> seconds before sending this email, and I'm still writing
this
>> email, and
>>>>>>>>> the page is still loading.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I dunno if any of you have had any experience with the
wiki
>> recently,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> it's been this slow for months. And I am not confident
it's gonna
>> get
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For that reason, I keep thinking about moving to Confluence.
I'm
>> not
>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>> how much work is involved in that. Perhaps people wanna
help out?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Might be a nice opportunity to clear out the stuff that
is in
>> Moin, that
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> don't want there any more, because it's in the docs.
(i.e. We just
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>> move it over.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you don't regularly edit the wiki, I'm hoping you
wont mind the
>>>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>>>> move. As I say, as someone who is using it fairly regularly,
it is
>>>>>>>>> causing
>>>>>>>>> me a lot of problems.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (Though, I really don't need to be adding work to my
plate. Perhaps
>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>> else would be interested in moving the content over?
Eugh.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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